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Profpointy

Legendary Member

Well it only applies to white folks obviously. This was america after all
 

swee'pea99

Squire
Arrgghh, the plane boarding thing really gets on my nerves. Do people really believe that they will be left behind if they don't all try to jump aboard as soon as the first seats are called?!
Brings to mind an anecdote from Spike Milligan's war reminiscences where he describes how the moment word is received that the train will be arriving at its destination - and ten minutes before it will get there - 'all the idiot sergeants get up and stand in the corridor. Why don't they just go and stand in a cemetery and have done with it?'
 

DaveReading

Don't suffer fools gladly (must try harder!)
Location
Reading, obvs
I think it's an American thing thats spread, where seats are regularly overbooked and the first into the seat gets priority.

That, and the fact that there often isn't enough space in the overhead bins for everyone's carry-ons, so those boarding first are at an advantage.
 

nickyboy

Norven Mankey
I think it's an American thing thats spread, where seats are regularly overbooked and the first into the seat gets priority.

If they're overbooked they will disallow boarding or seek volunteers before boarding takes place. There isn't a case of 100 passengers getting on a plane with 90 seats. It's down to overhead locker space
 

Welsh wheels

Lycra king
Location
South Wales
+1

The vast majority of people can't be bothered to think - it's too much effort - and to be fair they get through the day okay, mostly.

My fathers phrase was "How they cross the street each day without dying, I'll never know."
I know people who wonder across the street dodging traffic without really looking. How they haven't been run over I don't know.
 

Tin Pot

Guru
If they're overbooked they will disallow boarding or seek volunteers before boarding takes place. There isn't a case of 100 passengers getting on a plane with 90 seats. It's down to overhead locker space

...How does that explain the recent violence in america on the plane over overbooked seats?
 

Tin Pot

Guru
I know people who wonder across the street dodging traffic without really looking. How they haven't been run over I don't know.

And without lights and hiviz. Truly miraculous, we should set up a shrine or something by the roadside and worship this new god.

....Hang on, am I in the right thread?
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
If they're overbooked they will disallow boarding or seek volunteers before boarding takes place. There isn't a case of 100 passengers getting on a plane with 90 seats. It's down to overhead locker space

Not quite.... in the bad old days of Okada Air in Nigeria touts would buy tickets in any old name and every flight would end up heavily overbooked. You would arrive at the terminal to be told that the flight was full but that you could buy this ticket for an exorbitant extra price. You would find yourself holding a hand-written ticket and named as Olusegun or something. The flight would be called and everybody would dash across the tarmac clutching their hats to prevent them being blown off by jet blast from a moving plane, then fight to get up the dangerously swaying stairway. Once the plane was full the ground crew would pull the stairway away, still loaded, and some brave folk would jump the gap into the plane door. Anybody who got on would sit in the aisle between the seats and some who didn't would retreat swearing and cursing with torn shirts and bloodied noses. Goats went in the hold.
 

swee'pea99

Squire
Not quite.... in the bad old days of Okada Air in Nigeria touts would buy tickets in any old name and every flight would end up heavily overbooked. You would arrive at the terminal to be told that the flight was full but that you could buy this ticket for an exorbitant extra price. You would find yourself holding a hand-written ticket and named as Olusegun or something. The flight would be called and everybody would dash across the tarmac clutching their hats to prevent them being blown off by jet blast from a moving plane, then fight to get up the dangerously swaying stairway. Once the plane was full the ground crew would pull the stairway away, still loaded, and some brave folk would jump the gap into the plane door. Anybody who got on would sit in the aisle between the seats and some who didn't would retreat swearing and cursing with torn shirts and bloodied noses. Goats went in the hold.
Ah, the glamour of the jet age...
 

nickyboy

Norven Mankey
...How does that explain the recent violence in america on the plane over overbooked seats?

Not overbooked

What happened was everyone got in their booked seats. Then a number of staff who were being redeployed to the destination airport were told to board also (without seats). Result was more people on board than seats. Forcible deplaning, violence etc

No airline allows more paying passengers onto a plane than there are seats. Overbooking is common in USA but the "excess" are either denied boarding or, more commonly, an auction takes place to incentivise passengers to give up their places
 

Tin Pot

Guru
Not overbooked

What happened was everyone got in their booked seats. Then a number of staff who were being redeployed to the destination airport were told to board also (without seats). Result was more people on board than seats. Forcible deplaning, violence etc

No airline allows more paying passengers onto a plane than there are seats. Overbooking is common in USA but the "excess" are either denied boarding or, more commonly, an auction takes place to incentivise passengers to give up their places

The newspapers disagree with your definition of overbooked and claim that no more passengers than seats can get on the plane:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/da...rom-overbooked-flights-on-us-airlines-in-data

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...emoving-two-overbooked-passengers-day-united/

But I understand your point.
 

DaveReading

Don't suffer fools gladly (must try harder!)
Location
Reading, obvs
The newspapers disagree with your definition of overbooked and claim that no more passengers than seats can get on the plane:

Both you and the OP are correct.

It is never in the airline's interest to allow more passengers to board than there are seats but, as we have seen, c*ck-ups happen.
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
When I saw that picture I thought it was a highway somewhere exotic like Canada but then I realised it was the grotty old M6 running though the Howgills, presumably with all the Eddy Stobarts and tarmac patches airbrushed out.
 
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