Actually what I said was "
As far as I am concerned if I cannot see by them then I cannot be seen." and hence yes it surly is true.
"As far as I am concerned the Earth is flat/day is night/gravity doesn't exist etc. etc."; so no it surely isn't true.
Yep they are torches but powerful? That is not a term I would use today to describe them; after my ones are or rather where only 180 lumens each. Are cyclists using them and more modern torches as effective bike lights? From what I have seen and read, yep they are.
Just because a lot of people do something, it doesn't necessarily follow that it is a good idea.
I will have to bow to your expertise on the outback as haven't never riden there, net alone at night but last time I checked even places like Australia have "densely populated urban environments" and surprise surprise those torches worked fine in that environment. Funny how a little care in alignment can make them very functional.
I thought that someone calling themselves "Aushiker" and sub-titling their blog "bicycling & bushwalking in Western Australia" would be an extra-urban type. Apologies if the term "outback" means something else.
I have no doubt that they do work well in built-up environments, but my concern is with their effect on other road users (not to mention that they are quite unnecessary there).
No doubt you could apply your "argument" to numerous "bicycle" lights such as my replacement
DiNottee 400L, AyUps, Magicshine and the list goes on. All of which appear to work well in urban environments when used appropriately given again my own experience and what others have reported and I have seen.
No I couldn't, because my argument is that torches, not bike lights, are unsuitable.
For what it is worth I also use a
Busch & Mueller Lumotec ICQ Cyo which also is perfectly okay if aligned correctly and no it is not the version that complies with German road rules.
That and the white hot heat of your searing sarcasm should see you in good stead then.
Regards
Andrew