LIME E-bikes being dumped in canal & rivers

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Drago

Legendary Member
If only all the trial scooters could go for a swim...
 
Why is this, is it the same sort of issue that
occurred with Boris bikes?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8d1528yvy2o.amp

Ifthey don;t have to be locked up
and, according to the article, can be "hacked" so you can ride them without paying
then there are bound to be idiots that "hav a larf" with them

company should be made to pay for removal and damage - as soon as it costs them money they will take more notice
 

slowmotion

Quite dreadful
Location
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@slowmotion - a lot of these hire bike / scooter companies appear to fail financially due to high investment costs and poor returns. Public sector subsidies probably help a bit, but they're not very viable.

I suspect that they start out with an obsession with "visibility" and "market share" and forget that they just are not generating enough revenue to continue in the longer term.
 

Dogtrousers

Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
Why is this, is it the same sort of issue that
occurred with Boris bikes?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8d1528yvy2o.amp

With docked bikes you have to return the bike to a dock or you incur a financial penalty.

With dockless bikes/scooters the public are trusted to park them sensibly in appropriate places.

Note those two words "public" and "trusted". That's why they are always dumped any old where - generally strewn all over the place, blocking footways or indeed in rivers or canals. All in all they are a blight on the urban environment.
 
With docked bikes you have to return the bike to a dock or you incur a financial penalty.

With dockless bikes/scooters the public are trusted to park them sensibly in appropriate places.

Note those two words "public" and "trusted". That's why they are always dumped any old where - generally strewn all over the place, blocking footways or indeed in rivers or canals. All in all they are a blight on the urban environment.

Yup - when I first heard of it I wondered exactly what they were smoking in the meeting that decided this was a good idea
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
With docked bikes you have to return the bike to a dock or you incur a financial penalty.

With dockless bikes/scooters the public are trusted to park them sensibly in appropriate places.

Note those two words "public" and "trusted". That's why they are always dumped any old where - generally strewn all over the place, blocking footways or indeed in rivers or canals. All in all they are a blight on the urban environment.
This is not true. Some dockless schemes charge users for not parking in a designated area, which is often a relabelled car parking space. I think it's £10 in Norwich for parking elsewhere.

Most of the bikes dumped in silly places are either freeriders who bust the locks (so no registration so no fine, as reportedly happening in Nottingham) or vandals trying to get the hire bikes/scooters banned.
 
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Dogtrousers

Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
This is not true. Some dockless schemes charge users for not parking in a designated area, which is often a relabelled car parking space. I think it's £10 in Norwich for parking elsewhere.

Most of the bikes dumped in silly places are either freeriders who bust the locks (so no registration so no fine, as reportedly happening in Nottingham) or vandals trying to get the hire bikes/scooters banned.

Emphasis there on "some". Richmond still trust people. How sweet. They supposedly introduced parking areas in Lewisham in 2023 or 24. Made absolutely no difference. Not a jot. I can only assume that the technology doesn't work, or is easily defeated. Or the penalty isn't high enough. Bikes still strewn all over the place - blocking pavements and generally being an eyesore.

There definitely are people who ride them without paying, and then discard them. They make a bit of a clacking sound when ridden which isn't much of a deterrent it seems. I don't much care if who dumped them, I just care that they are dumped. And they are.

The idea that there are gangs of highly motivated vandals who want to make Lime look bad is rather fanciful, but I suppose not entirely impossible.
 
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presta

Legendary Member
@slowmotion - a lot of these hire bike / scooter companies appear to fail financially due to high investment costs and poor returns. Public sector subsidies probably help a bit, but they're not very viable.
Google maps tells me that it costs £3-4 for an electric scooter into town. Even without a bus pass, that must be more than the bus fare, and you still have to walk to find it.
With dockless bikes/scooters the public are trusted to park them sensibly in appropriate places.

Note those two words "public" and "trusted". That's why they are always dumped any old where
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mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
The idea that there are gangs of highly motivated vandals who want to make Lime look bad is rather fanciful, but I suppose not entirely impossible.
Fanciful because you believe minicab firms are saints who never do anything unethical to get rid of competitors, or what?

I remember Cambridge Green Bikes. Nicked and dumped very quickly, then as soon as the service ended, the dumping stopped too and people started seeing the bikes, as in http://iankitching.me.uk/history/cam/old/green-bike.html

Random vandals wouldn't have stopped. It was political. The same is probably true now, but Lime and similar have deeper pockets.
 
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