LIME E-bikes being dumped in canal & rivers

[Dogtrousers]

Fanciful because you believe minicab firms are saints who never do anything unethical to get rid of competitors, or what?

I remember Cambridge Green Bikes. Nicked and dumped very quickly, then as soon as the service ended, the dumping stopped too and people started seeing the bikes, as in http://iankitching.me.uk/history/cam/old/green-bike.html

Random vandals wouldn't have stopped. It was political. The same is probably true now, but Lime and similar have deeper pockets.

Minicab firms? There aren't many of those left. Get with it man, it's all uber now.

I'm extremely sceptical of the idea that people are going to the trouble of moving nicely parked lime bikes in order to make a point. But as I say, not impossible.

 

[mjr]

Minicab firms? There aren't many of those left. Get with it man, it's all uber now.

uber and its ilk are basically a worse minicab business. Those firms flirt with the edges of employment law, so why wouldn't they take a similarly relaxed attitude to property and highways law?

 

[mjr]

Minicab firms? There aren't many of those left. Get with it man, it's all uber now.

uber and its ilk are basically a worse minicab business. Those firms flirt with the edges of employment law, so why wouldn't they take a similarly relaxed attitude to property and highways law?

 

[mustang1]

With docked bikes you have to return the bike to a dock or you incur a financial penalty.

With dockless bikes/scooters the public are trusted to park them sensibly in appropriate places.

Note those two words "public" and "trusted". That's why they are always dumped any old where - generally strewn all over the place, blocking footways or indeed in rivers or canals. All in all they are a blight on the urban environment.

Well, since temporary road signs (eg roadworks ahead) are dumped on the footpath, maybe the lime bikes should be parked in the road.

Why should pedestrians always have the sidewalks blocked.

 

[Dogtrousers]

Well, since temporary road signs (eg roadworks ahead) are dumped on the footpath, maybe the like bikes should be parked in the road.

Why should pedestrians always have the sidewalks blocked.

It happens.

I saw one yoof dismount from a Lime bike (almost certainly "hacked" and not paid for) outside my local station and just drop it in the middle of the road.

It's not a through road, so very little traffic but all the same. I would have shifted it but my train was arriving.

 

[N0bodyOfTheGoat]

I don't want to start another thread for this post, about another ebike misinformation fail by bbc...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpqe0qn25glo

"Currently anyone over the age of 14 can ride a legal e-bike, as long as it has pedals, does not travel faster than 15mph, and has an output of no more than 250W."

As far as I'm aware, only the age bit of that sentence is correct.

Pedals must be turned to get assistance, unless they have a legal walk mode throttle (I don't know the limit for this, but I expect it's 4mph maximum)
Legal ebikes can travel faster than 15mph, think I've done ~42mph max speed so far! However, the maximum motor assist speed for a uk legal one is 25kph, ~15.5mph (I believe there is some legal wiggle room of ~10%, if you've fitted a larger tyre than bike was supplied with).
The uk road legal max power is apparently 250W average over 30mins, must admit I was unaware of this one until quite recently, I thought it was 250W maximum at any one point in time.

I'm glad police are starting to check ebike legalities, confiscating and destroying dodgy ones... But I hope they are better informed than BBC journalists and their managers!

 

[classic33]

I don't want to start another thread for this post, about another ebike misinformation fail by bbc...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpqe0qn25glo

"Currently anyone over the age of 14 can ride a legal e-bike, as long as it has pedals*, does not travel faster than 15mph, and has an output of no more than 250W."

As far as I'm aware, only the age bit of that sentence is correct.

Pedals must be turned to get assistance, unless they have a legal walk mode throttle (I don't know the limit for this, but I expect it's 4mph maximum)
Legal ebikes can travel faster than 15mph, think I've done ~42mph max speed so far! However, the maximum motor assist speed for a uk legal one is 25kph, ~15.5mph (I believe there is some legal wiggle room of ~10%, if you've fitted a larger tyre than bike was supplied with).
The uk road legal max power is apparently 250W average over 30mins, must admit I was unaware of this one until quite recently, I thought it was 250W maximum at any one point in time.

I'm glad police are starting to check ebike legalities, confiscating and destroying dodgy ones... But I hope they are better informed than BBC journalists and their managers!

*As the primary means of propulsion.

 

[Alex321]

Ifthey don;t have to be locked up
and, according to the article, can be "hacked" so you can ride them without paying
then there are bound to be idiots that "hav a larf" with them

company should be made to pay for removal and damage - as soon as it costs them money they will take more notice

It is already costing them money though. Thos bikes will mostly be ruined and have to be replaced - or repaired if not completely wrecked.

 

[N0bodyOfTheGoat]

Just seen this article, ebikes found guilty of hit and run crash with pedestrain.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr5rm4q1gm4o

Is it just me, or does that ebike look like it's doing ~30mph? Maybe it just looks quicker in the dark.

 

[Drago]

Just seen this article, ebikes found guilty of hit and run crash with pedestrain.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr5rm4q1gm4o

Is it just me, or does that ebike look like it's doing ~30mph? Maybe it just looks quicker in the dark.

Thats not even an "ebike". Its a Surron type electric motorcycle. The BBC and their complete lack of will to understand the subject strikes again.

 

[mjr]

Thats not even an "ebike". Its a Surron type electric motorcycle. The BBC and their complete lack of will to understand the subject strikes again.

Or surfeit of will to misreport the subject, as they've got to keep BBC bosses and "talent" able to go everwhere by chauffeur-driven cars, haven't they? That's so obviously a key part of informing, educating and entertaining(!)

 

[Dogtrousers]

Thats not even an "ebike". Its a Surron type electric motorcycle. The BBC and their complete lack of will to understand the subject strikes again.

It's is fairly evident from the charges, even to an eejit like me: Patrick Douglas, 21, of Fishbourne Lane, admitted driving dangerously, without a licence, insurance or headgear, and failing to stop after an accident.

If it was an e-bike, headgear would be neither here nor there.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

It's is fairly evident from the charges, even to an eejit like me: Patrick Douglas, 21, of Fishbourne Lane, admitted driving dangerously, without a licence, insurance or headgear, and failing to stop after an accident.

If it was an e-bike, headgear would be neither here nor there.

The chargaes clearly show the incident was being treated as a motorbike incident ratehr than a bicycle one

but the words used in the article are irresponsible and it lumps the big 1000W (plus) electric powered motorbikes into the same category as proper legal Pedalecs - or EPACS ro whatever we should call them

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

I don't want to start another thread for this post, about another ebike misinformation fail by bbc...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpqe0qn25glo

"Currently anyone over the age of 14 can ride a legal e-bike, as long as it has pedals, does not travel faster than 15mph, and has an output of no more than 250W."

As far as I'm aware, only the age bit of that sentence is correct.

Pedals must be turned to get assistance, unless they have a legal walk mode throttle (I don't know the limit for this, but I expect it's 4mph maximum)
Legal ebikes can travel faster than 15mph, think I've done ~42mph max speed so far! However, the maximum motor assist speed for a uk legal one is 25kph, ~15.5mph (I believe there is some legal wiggle room of ~10%, if you've fitted a larger tyre than bike was supplied with).
The uk road legal max power is apparently 250W average over 30mins, must admit I was unaware of this one until quite recently, I thought it was 250W maximum at any one point in time.

I'm glad police are starting to check ebike legalities, confiscating and destroying dodgy ones... But I hope they are better informed than BBC journalists and their managers!

That bit have bolded is interesting
I have not seen that before but I have seen a lot about how the power is often above 250W but teh word "continuous" makes the difference

The bit about 30 mins - anyone seen this before and where does it come from???

 

[presta]

The bit about 30 mins - anyone seen this before and where does it come from???

It comes from the EAPC legislation if you follow it up through all the specifications it references.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1983/1168/made
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2015/24/regulation/2/made
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:42006X1124(03)#:~:text=Regulation No 85 of the Economic
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2013/168/oj/eng