Discussion in 'CycleChat Cafe' started by Pete, 29 Jan 2008.

  1. Pete

    Pete Guest

    Following the surprising 'success' (:smile:) of the "no 'n's" thread, and Arch's 'n'-only rejoinder (can't say I understand it, mind!), I thought folks might be interested in large-scale lipograms (text which completely omits a certain letter or letters). There are two famous examples, both of which entirely lack the letter 'e':
    Gadsby by Ernest Vincent Wright, written about 1938, and:
    A Void (originally published in French as La Disparition), written 1969 by Georges Perec. The English translation preserves the rule of no 'e's.

    Both books appear to be out-of-print, but Gadsby can be read on-line. It is not a particularly good novel, but interesting.
    A Void, apparently not on-line, and hard to get: I have tried for some years, but not yet managed, to secure a copy. It is supposed to be incomparably better than Gadsby. One I would like to read some time: I have only seen extracts.
  2. Smokin Joe

    Smokin Joe Legendary Member

    I once wrote a long post without using the letter 'Z' a single time.
  3. PrettyboyTim

    PrettyboyTim New Member

    To anybody interested in this, I can heartily recommend 'Ella Minnow Pea' by Mark Dunn. As well as being a touching, beautifully written novel, it also contains a great wealth of lipograms.

    It's a lovely book. Read it read it read it!
  4. Fab Foodie

    Fab Foodie hanging-on in quiet desperation ...

  5. Arch

    Arch Married to Night Train

    Salford, UK
    It says, "Now, I thought there ought to be a thread with only n in it" But said all in n's.

    I have to say, the lipogram thing certainly makes you think, and for that reason, can make you quite creative - like fridge poetry - I'd never write a poem normally, but when restricted to only certain words, it became a challenge and I would really work at it.

    I don't have the tiles up at the moment, as my fridge is an under-counter one, and I don't want to give myself a bad back.
  6. Ploetry
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