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vickster

Squire
I never paid much attention, but what was all that stuff in the news about people getting money back for unfair bank fees?

Agree with vernon, need to sort the issue with Santander - it'll cost you far more than £256 in the long run with higher interest rates on loans, credit cards, not being able to take advantage of 0% deals. What if you want a mortgage down the line?
 
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RiflemanSmith

RiflemanSmith

Senior Member
Location
London UK
Your hourly rate can't be that great if you have so little to spare with no mortgage or debts to service
No I have £400 left after bills and other expenses.
Suppose I will have to bite the bullet and pay them the money seems like the esiest option.:evil:
 

Mark Grant

Acting Captain of The St Annes Jombulance.
Location
Hanworth, Middx.
Go and see Santander, explain that you cannot understand how the original overdraft occured and that you are alarmed at the added charges. They may be willing to remove some of the charges for an early settlement.
 

deanE

Senior Member
If you are decided that you are going for a loan then try ZOPA a peer to peer lending group. Rates of interest can be below banks. But I agree with Mark Grant, sort out your disagreement with Santander. If no luck then go to the banking ombudsman. It’s free.
 

EltonFrog

Legendary Member
Do not borrow money for a bike. Save up for the one you want, you will get a great deal of satisfaction from knowing that you own the bike, that you saved and paid cash for.

Borrowing money, even interest free, is a mugs game, especially if cash is already limited.
 

RecordAceFromNew

Swinging Member
Location
West London
I never paid much attention, but what was all that stuff in the news about people getting money back for unfair bank fees?

Agree with vernon, need to sort the issue with Santander - it'll cost you far more than £256 in the long run with higher interest rates on loans, credit cards, not being able to take advantage of 0% deals. What if you want a mortgage down the line?

+1.

Abbey used to be one of the banks I used and I do recall they used to charge £25 a month for unauthorised overcharge no matter how little and how ridiculous the reasons were. IIRC at a certain time between various court rulings in 2007/8 they did refund such money, but unfortunately I believe the Supreme Court upheld their stance/charges eventually in 2009. The bottom line, is unless you can negotiate a middle way with them amicably, you will be cutting off the nose to spite the face by not paying them off.
 

swee'pea99

Squire
Think of it this way: you've learned one of life's important lessons relatively cheap. £256 is not a great deal of money in the great scheme of things, and for that, you've learned how expensive it can be to fail to 'play by the rules'. It was you who let a £25 fumble spiral out of control. Don't let it happen again.

Now, if you could buy a decent credit rating for £256, would you do it? Unless you have no interest in how such things work, or a strong urge to self-destruct, of course you would. You'd be mad not to. Especially if you are, as you clearly are, the kind of person who likes to live now and pay in installments. So that's your starting position: be willing to take it on the chin, take the 'life-lesson' on board, and move on.

You might do better. As others have said, they're institutionalised robbers, but they're built on self-interest, just like you, and they're often open to 'a deal'. Go and see them, bite your tongue, keep your cool, and make your apologies, however much it galls you. Be contrite - it could save you a packet! Show that you recognise you got it wrong but won't ever do it again and is there anything they might be able to do...especially as you're looking to buy this great new bike and every little helps. (Which starts them thinking 'new bike? Maybe he'll want a loan. I could arrange that and get some brownie points. He sounds like he means it and he won't screw up again...').

They may say no, in which case, I say again, bite your tongue, pay up and move on. But I wouldn't be at all surprised if they say yes. Either way, you're on the way to repairing your credit rating, cheaply. But do focus on that: forget the bikes, forget the injustice, forget everything but the importance to you, being who you are and how you like to live, of a good credit rating. Think of them as a bastard sergeant - you can hate them all you like, but you know if you fight them they're going to win...

As for the bike, I'm with others. I've had a good job for 30 years, I've cycled every day, I've taken part in Sportives and the Etape du Tour and I've never even thought about spending that kind of cash on a bike. But each to their own. You say you can afford it, and it is your money.

But do get your ducks in a row: credit rating first, bike second.
 

vickster

Squire
Do not borrow money for a bike. Save up for the one you want, you will get a great deal of satisfaction from knowing that you own the bike, that you saved and paid cash for.

Borrowing money, even interest free, is a mugs game, especially if cash is already limited.

I have absolutely no issues with credit rating, but I have used IFC recently even though savings could have covered the cost - kitchen, new bed (on an IF CC) - but why should I raid the piggy bank when it costs me nothing to pay monthly (even though interest rates on savings are pathetic) :smile:

I wouldn't buy a bike or a car on IFC - risk of it being stolen or totalled and wouldn't want to be paying for something I no longer possess ;)
 

Andrew_P

In between here and there
No I have £400 left after bills and other expenses.
Suppose I will have to bite the bullet and pay them the money seems like the esiest option.:evil:
Careful how you do this, I would sign up to Experian for a month and look at what is reported there, and then (depending on what is visable on your credit report) make them and offer that if you pay up your debt (explaining the circumstances) that they REMOVE completely the default. If they just mark it as settled it will not improve your account until SIX years from the DATE of SETTLEMENT. If you do not pay the debt it will still be removed from your credit report six years from the default date.. At least this is how it was 2-3 years ago. worth checking out how Santander handle a settlement. They may also accept a lower figure, again this can impact your rating and actually extend how long it apppears on your rating..
 

EltonFrog

Legendary Member
I have absolutely no issues with credit rating, but I have used IFC recently even though savings could have covered the cost - kitchen, new bed (on an IF CC) - but why should I raid the piggy bank when it costs me nothing to pay monthly (even though interest rates on savings are pathetic) :smile:

I wouldn't buy a bike or a car on IFC - risk of it being stolen or totalled and wouldn't want to be paying for something I no longer possess ;)


I agree if you have the cash saved, then IFC is a good option, as long as you pay the loan back in time. However the OP has made it clear that this is not the case, he does not have the spare cash, therefore borrowing any money from anyone when funds are already tight is not a good idea.

I urge the OP to think very carfefully before committing to a large loan, and respectfully advise that he spend the next 12 months, saving for a dream bike, sorting out his credit rating with Santander, by negotiating a settlement. Meanwhile, whilst saving the OP can enjoy the glorious fun, pain and torment and joy of specifying a new bike.
 

mr_hippo

Living Legend & Old Fart
You have two choices:
Get a loan and not only will you have a new bike but also sleepless nights worrying about paying for it!
Stick with your old bike and sleep at night!
Sorry, you have a third choice; decide on the specs you want then get the frame when you can afford it, next month get the chainset and repeat until you have a complete bike. Then the bike will be 'yours` and unique and you will not have to start one of the moronic upgrade threads; you know the sort I mean `I have bought a SuperBling 2013, what can I upgrade my wheels to?'.
 

Dan B

Disengaged member
Sorry, you have a third choice; decide on the specs you want then get the frame when you can afford it, next month get the chainset and repeat until you have a complete bike.
When I looked at this it seemed to be a horrifically expensive way to buy a bike, because the retail price of any given groupset is just so much greater than the price a bike manufacturer would pay for it. Things may have changed since then of course
 
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