London to Paris - suggestions needed

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400bhp

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Hi

My OH and I are looking to do London to Paris later in the year (probably August) We will be on road bikes (23 mm tyres) and travelling as light as possible (large saddle bag, down tube bag and back pockets and that'll be it:thumbsup:). We wouldn't want to do more than 90 miles a day (certainly not 90 miles on consecutive days)

The plan is to drop my 5 y.o daughter off at my sisters in South London (late Thurs night or early Fri morn) then take 3 days to do it, i.e. leave Friday morning (1 day cycling in the UK) and arrive in paris on Sunday (2 days in France). I don't really want to impose on my sister any more than this.

I need a few suggestions for routes in France (route planning in the UK is fine). I've had a look around the web and so far I am at this juncture:

#1 - Newhaven -Dieppe - Paris. Using the Ave Vert for the first 40 miles or so. I have a broad route here, which I borrowed from Donald Hirsh website. I believe the Ave Vert is fine for 23mm tyres.

This seems like a nice route and is the easiest to plan as someone has already ridden it. The route is also similar, I believe, to a route a friend took.

The downside is the ferry times. Newhaven to Dieppe ferries either travel overnight, arriving at 4:30am (which isn't great) or travel late morning, arriving at 4:30 pm. This would limit us to perhaps 40 miles on saturday, meaning 90 miles on sunday.

#2 The other options are Le Havre or Caen (both about 130 miles). I would look to make our way to Le Neuburg, then follow the cycle path to Evreaux. Le Havre ferry crossing arriving at 11:30 or the overnight arriving 6:45am.

However, the web searches seem to suggest the route is rubbish from Le Havre. I'm not convinced this is correct. I could head towards Duclair and take the car ferry over.

Any thoughts or help on route planning would be greatly appreciated. Are there other alternatives on routes we haven't considered?
 

Alex H

Legendary Member
Location
Alnwick
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
Day 1 - London to Portsmouth (actually we started in Guildford and took the afternoon ferry)
Overnight to Ouistreham
Day 2 - Ouistreham - Evreux
Day 3 - Evreux - Paris

Let me know if you want GPX files for days 2 and 3 (though the final route into Paris left something to be desired)

Alternatively, look at Dellzeqq's route for his FNRttC via Newhaven.
 
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400bhp

400bhp

Guru
Day 1 - London to Portsmouth (actually we started in Guildford and took the afternoon ferry)
Overnight to Ouistreham
Day 2 - Ouistreham - Evreux
Day 3 - Evreux - Paris

Let me know if you want GPX files for days 2 and 3 (though the final route into Paris left something to be desired)

Alternatively, look at Dellzeqq's route for his FNRttC via Newhaven.

Thanks - would be handy to have gpx files:thumbsup: I plotted this route from Caen last night as far as Le Neubourg (Le Neubourg looks relatively easy to sort out). I did check out ferry crossings to Caen and all cabins on the fri eve were full on the 1st week in Aug.
 
I dont think you should rule out my route via Dieppe on the basis of your requirements. Mostly the ferries get in at 3,not 430 (it's tide dependent, but if you look at different days you should be able to find an option that's not too late), and in France in the summer it stays light till after 10. This means many people with road bikes have done 50-65 miles off the ferry without much difficulty, meaning you'd have 65-80 miles on the last day which may feel more manageable. There's also the advantage of a really fantastic B and B at mile 61, marked in my accommodation guide, very accommodating to late arrivals, and also other lovely places at miles 49 and 55.

Donald Hirsch
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/fr...st-newhaven-dieppe-paris-22-23-24-may.148164/

London - Newhaven - Dieppe - Paris. It took three goes to get the route in to Paris right, but it's a honey. Of course the key to this is to start from London at midnight, catch the morning ferry. If you're smart getting off the boat you can clear Dieppe by about half past four. We stop over at Saint-Saens, 24 miles southeast of Dieppe, which leaves about 83 miles to Paris. Boulangerie stops at Torcy-le-Grand (at the roundabout) Morgny (near the hotel de Ville) and Marines (which closes at 13.30). Bike shop at Gisors. Once in to Ermont you'll find bars with gardens.
 
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frank9755

Cyclist
Location
West London
DZ's route is definitely the best one.

If you don't mind roughing it a bit more, then a gentle pootle down to Newhaven to take the Friday evening ferry would also work if it fitted your time constraints better. You'd then find yourself in Dieppe having a very early start on the Saturday, with smooth roads heading south through sleepy villages all to yourselves. I've done it twice and found it quite magical.

It's not hard going so, depending on how much distance you're comfortable with, Paris is well within range within the day - perhaps with a long late breakfast and a siesta in a sunny park along the way. Then you would have Sunday to ride around Paris a bit - which is great in summer when the city is very quiet - before heading home.
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
M. 400 - I've just clocked the reference to August.

Be aware - it can be very, very hot in summer - the temperature reached 40 degrees on our ride last year. Hence the switch to May (and you'd be welcome to join us). I would say, though, that whether you go in late spring or summer, it would be best to get as early start as possible and remember that a lot of shops, boulangeries and cafes (!) close at lunchtime.
 

JackE

Über Member
Location
Hertfordshire
Some friends did Dieppe to Paris in early May last year. They got off the ferry at 3.30pm and headed along the AV to their overnight stop at Gournay (48 miles). They stopped in Neufchatel to re-fuel (obligatory IMO). Donald H's route into Paris is very good.
 

StuartG

slower but no further
Location
SE London
You mentioned 23mm tyres. Yep, doable on the English side. French roads, lanes and cycle paths are, by comparison, velvet smooth. French drivers are shockingly courteous to cyclists. Parisian drivers are not. Just stay away from N roads and it is paradise.
 
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Broadside

Guru
Location
Fleet, Hants
I am planning a very similar ride at the moment. I had initially thought about the Newhaven - Dieppe route but with the ferry only being 4h30m it's not really long enough to get your head down for a decent sleep. So I am now thinking about Portsmouth - Le Havre/Caen, cycling to Portsmouth at 5pm to get the overnight ferry which takes 8hrs, so you can get about 6hrs sleep. I did the route from Caen-Bernay-Evreux-Versailles-Paris a few years ago and remember it was lovely, parts of it were stunning, with the exception of the busier bits around Versailles. We camped in Versailles and then did the final schlep in to Paris at 8am on a Sunday morning which was nice and quiet.

Here's the itinerary so far taken straight from an email that I sent to friends yesterday :-)
Fri 1700hrs - set off on a 40-ish mile ride to Portsmouth (from Fleet), sail at 2300hrs
Sat 0800hrs - arrive in Le Havre/Caen, start the approx 100 miles to Mantes-La-Jolie
Sat 1300hrs - stop at a halfway point around Le Neubourg or somewhere nearby for lunch
Sat 1700hrs - arrive at campsite in Mantes-La-Jolie to camp overnight
Sun 0800hrs - cycle the remaining 40 miles in to Paris, arrive 1100hrs, spend some time in Paris, lunch etc.
Sun 1700hrs - Eurostar back, home by 2100hrs
 
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