London tube - how much would I be charged if...

[dellzeqq]

I got caught by the double fare thing when the Piccadilly line failed on me (would never have happened in Ken's day) and I gave up my attempt to get to Heathrow and returned to Brixton. The gate at Brixton positively glowed with pleasure as it stripped the balance from my Oyster card..

 

[Paulus]

Why did they name it East London line, anyway? Are they predicting poles shifting to the equator?

It was just a nicknmame as it ran through parts of East London before going under the river. It was once connected to Liverpool Street main line station, and until recently as you left Liverpool St. you could see the empty tunnel and the platform at Shoreditch at the East London Line. The ELL was also connected to the Metropolitan Line and District Lines with a junction at the Minories just before Whitechaple, since removed.
When the ELL re-opens it will not be part of the Underground system, but London Overground and will connect the North London Line at Dalston to the Southern with junctions at New Cross Gate.

 

[NickM]

The Oyster system will be set up on the (not unreasonable) principle that if you go through the barriers you intend to travel.

It is unreasonable if on arriving at platform level you find it excessively crowded, with the next train not due for 10 minutes, and decide against travelling in those unacceptable conditions.

Then, on returning to the ticket office for a refund (because the system at the ticket barriers will assume that you have travelled somewhere) you are put through the third degree

 

[NickM]

...you may incur a negative balance if you don't have enough on the card for that particular journey.

There is no reason why travellers shouldn't incur a so-called "negative balance" - a deposit is paid when the card is acquired which takes care of that.

 

[bikepete]

It can also be a useful shortcut to walk through a station which means going through two sets of barriers - e.g. at Earls Court.

Did that several times during the Cycle show there last year - quickest way from exhibition venue to shops - reading this was getting worried it had clobbered my Oyster card - but then remembered I'd bought a 5-day travelcard so no extra cost :-)

 

[rich p]

Is this a drugs pick up?

I assumed a sort of Blithe Spirit moment at Clerkenwell followed by a faraway stare, a moist eye and a tender handshake before returning unrequited to Dalston Junction.
After all, who'd want to pay for sex?

 

[yorkshiregoth]

There is no reason why travellers shouldn't incur a so-called "negative balance" - a deposit is paid when the card is acquired which takes care of that.

The £3 deposit is kept seperate on the card so can't be used towards negative balances. It is also refundable if one surrenders the card.

 

[NickM]

The £3 deposit is kept seperate on the card so can't be used towards negative balances.

That's the point. It should be available to fund "negative" balances. I didn't pay it by choice.

 

[domd1979]

That's the point. It should be available to fund "negative" balances. I didn't pay it by choice.

But £3 is about what a smartcard costs to manufacture and issue.

 

[mr_cellophane]

I can't find it anywhere official, but I have read that touch in and out at the same station within 15 minutes is not charged.

 

[yorkshiregoth]

No, you would be charged the minimum fare for that zone. £1.80 or £1.30

 

[mr_cellophane]

What ever happens, you can claim it back - see page 39
http://dlrlondon.com/pdf/DLR-Conditions-of-Carriage.pdf

You have:
• bought a ticket
• (if paying as you go):
touched your Oyster
card on the card
reader
but are unable to start
your journey because
of service disruption.

give you a full and immediate
cash refund of the fare you have
paid if you hold a single or
return ticket.
if paying as you go, credit your
Oyster card with the amount
paid – this will generally be
paid the following day.

Send in your ticket straight
away by Freepost to the
DLR Customer Services
Centre, Freepost EDO
5793, London E14 0BR.

 

[davidg]

Send in your ticket straight
away by Freepost to the
DLR Customer Services
Centre, Freepost EDO
5793, London E14 0BR.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/tickets/refunds/tuberefund/

 

[NickM]

But £3 is about what a smartcard costs to manufacture and issue.

I didn't want one. I was bullied into having it by TfL's accompanying changes to their fare structure. It was introduced because of its perceived advantages for TfL - not to make their customers' lives better.

 

[Rhythm Thief]

I didn't want one. I was bullied into having it by TfL's accompanying changes to their fare structure. It was introduced because of its perceived advantages for TfL - not to make their customers' lives better.

As so many things are these days. Just insert the name of the service provider of your choice into that sentence instead of "TfL".