Loud car exhausts (and a general rant about boy racers).

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Oldfentiger

Veteran
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I recall a lot of the fatalities were midlife crisis blokes who did the Fastrack bike license in a week then bought bikes way beyond their level of competence.
100% agree.
I found the Fireblade to be easy to ride and predictable. It was phenomenally fast and light for it's time, which meant that the inexperienced rider would arrive at the scene of his inevitable demise much more quickly.
It has 4 cylinders though, which is really a car engine. All proper motorbikes have one or two cylinders. :whistle:
 

Electric_Andy

Heavy Metal Fan
Location
Plymouth
... All proper motorbikes have one or two cylinders. :whistle:
Now that I've reached the age of 35, I'm tending to agree. I do yearn for a more character-filled thumper or twin. Just can't be doing with buying and selling at the moment. And I'm a sucker for the reliability and ease of the Jap IL4s.

Back on topic - OP have you reported this if it's a regular occurrence? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think council is the first stop for a noise complaint, but I guess not much use if the offenders aren't your neighbours? Reporting it on non-emergency line may or may not prove fruitful. Sometimes plod showing up will be enough for them to find another poor souls' street to make noises on. It will depend on how you report it i.e. "they're keeping me up all night" versus "they're racing, and nearly ran over my Gran"
 

mybike

Grumblin at Garmin on the Granny Gear
[QUOTE 4127006, member: 9609"]depends where about in town - I can think of plenty of built up areas near where I live where the street lighting is so poor you need dips.

And if anyone's eye sight is so poor that an oncoming car using dipped beam blinds them, then may be they should not be on the road.[/QUOTE]

When going around a LH bend the headlights sweep across the road, and when surmounting a rise they shine upward. In both cases blinding any driver coming the other way.
 

mybike

Grumblin at Garmin on the Granny Gear
Again; it's about being seen, rather than helping to see. As has been said, properly adjusted dipped headlights shouldn't dazzle anyone with regulation eyesight.

Not actually true, I've already mentioned situations where dipped headlights can dazzle. I think most people drive on them so they can drive faster without making so much effort to see.

Carry on driving in lit up areas with sidelights on if you must, but don't be surprised if an HGV pulls into your lane on a dual carriageway because you were not seen, or worse - a motorbike pulls out in front of you in the rain and you kill the rider :cursing:.

In my experience, good motorcyclists are careful about what they see and in any case not using dipped headlights causes you to actually use the lighting available so you are aware of drivers in side roads.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
100% agree.
I found the Fireblade to be easy to ride and predictable. It was phenomenally fast and light for it's time, which meant that the inexperienced rider would arrive at the scene of his inevitable demise much more quickly.
It has 4 cylinders though, which is really a car engine. All proper motorbikes have one or two cylinders. :whistle:

Real bikes have 6 pots inline, although air cooled triples are unacceptable substitute if one is too weedy to manage a z1300.
 

screenman

Squire
Not actually true, I've already mentioned situations where dipped headlights can dazzle. I think most people drive on them so they can drive faster without making so much effort to see.



In my experience, good motorcyclists are careful about what they see and in any case not using dipped headlights causes you to actually use the lighting available so you are aware of drivers in side roads.

Do you only use side lights when driving? How about seeing better and still driving slower.
 

Oldfentiger

Veteran
Location
Pendle, Lancs
Real bikes have 6 pots inline, although air cooled triples are unacceptable substitute if one is too weedy to manage a z1300.
Kawasaki Z1300
Honda CBX1000
Benelli 900Sei

Can't think of any more inline sixes.
All interesting bikes though, even if they had four cylinders more than required.:headshake:
 
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Brandane

Brandane

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Location
Costa Clyde
Not actually true, I've already mentioned situations where dipped headlights can dazzle. I think most people drive on them so they can drive faster without making so much effort to see
It scares me that you appear to have a driving licence. Dipped headlights in an area with street lights do not assist with vision, they are there to help other road users to see you.
Re motorcyclists, even the most careful of them struggle to see in the rain. Visors don't have wipers other than a gloved finger, and the inside mists up in damp conditions when you stop, so you have to open it and squint into the rain to see anything. It would be of great assistance to us if drivers would make their cars more visible!
 

mybike

Grumblin at Garmin on the Granny Gear
It scares me that you appear to have a driving licence. Dipped headlights in an area with street lights do not assist with vision, they are there to help other road users to see you.
Re motorcyclists, even the most careful of them struggle to see in the rain. Visors don't have wipers other than a gloved finger, and the inside mists up in damp conditions when you stop, so you have to open it and squint into the rain to see anything. It would be of great assistance to us if drivers would make their cars more visible!

Dipped headlights obscure everything other than you, they are a menace.

I used to ride a motorcycle so I know that dipped headlights would not assist over sidelights as they produce too much glare. Ideally a car sidelight should have a very large surface area, such as the complete reflector used for headlights. A very good form was the dim dip system that sued to be used but is now sadly discontinued.
 

screenman

Squire
Dipped headlights obscure everything other than you, they are a menace.

I used to ride a motorcycle so I know that dipped headlights would not assist over sidelights as they produce too much glare. Ideally a car sidelight should have a very large surface area, such as the complete reflector used for headlights. A very good form was the dim dip system that sued to be used but is now sadly discontinued.

I did ask you a question a while back.
 
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Brandane

Brandane

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Location
Costa Clyde
Dipped headlights obscure everything other than you, they are a menace.
At least we're making progress here, as you appear to now acknowledge that dipped headlights obscure everything other than you. "Everything" includes the cars with sidelights on. If you are indeed an ex biker I fail to comprehend why you have an issue with this, but we're going to have to agree to disagree. You aren't going to change your mind, and I'm most certainly not going to change mine.
 
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