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cookiemonster

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Hong Kong
I see no problems in giving your CC number. They're not charging you unless you say so, a box appears if money is to be charged, so you can say no and opt out of paying.

Speaking of upgrades, I upgraded to the new Mac Yosemite OS a few weeks after buying my new MacAir. A tip, make sure you swith off your wifi and disable your anti virus when installing, it's a bitch to install otherwise. Took me 6 hours, and several visits to the Apple forum, to figure that out.

However, Yosemite is very good and very user friendly.
 
I wouldn't buy (overpriced hardware) unless it was a manufacture refurb/sale item, and certainly wouldn't be buying this years models. Stick with last years refurbs (1 year warranty) and you can just about justify the cost.

http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/specialdeals/mac

Think of it as a car that depreciates wildly in the first 1-3 years, and after that its probably worth taking the hit. Unless you into software development or video editing there is absolutely no reason to buy this years hardware.

You wouldn't go for the most expensive hardware in a Dell or Leonovo so why do it with a Mac?

Also, I find windows 7 perfectly adequate and see no reason to buy into OSX, built my own super rig in 2011 and still going strong. :smile:
 

StuAff

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Location
Portsmouth
Yeah they've got worse! I have a macbook pro (os 10.5) from 2009, the latest versions of itunes wont work (and havent worked since 2012) because they need os 10.6 or above so the functionality with new iphones isnt there because they need the latest versions of itunes to work.

With an old os (whether on pc or mac) i expect support from 3rd party developers to be a bit patchy after a few years (for example skype no longer works on my macbook) but 3 years for apple software and hardware is a joke considering the price of the mbp and iphone and how alot of the justification for the inflated prices is the supposed seemless integration of devices and how things 'just work'.

Im not an apple hater by any means (using an ipad to post this!) but ive had far more difficulties with their products than ive had with a pc running windows 7, which thankfully does support the latest version of itunes.
It'll cost you nothing to upgrade to 10.9 or 10.10 and your machine is well within the required specs (early 2009 Macbook here) ...... Just put Yosemite on and problem solved.
 
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I see no problems in giving your CC number. They're not charging you unless you say so,

SERIOUSLY? You are happy that an American conglomerate has your CC details sat on one of their computers to dip into whenever they have an accidental bug, which accidentally takes $0.25 off each card held to ensure it's valid? You have greater faith in them than I. Just to play this out, in the 1st quarter of 2013 they sold 48M iphones, 23M ipads, 4M Macs 13M ipods, approximately 88M all times $0.25 makes an extra $22M profit, okay lots of people will realise & demand it back, but there are many more who won't question a $0.25 debit on their CC for something from iStore or iTunes or whatever it's called.


Already tried those they don't work, I can't update the software to get to the software that those instructions are relevant to because I don't have the Apple ID that will allow me to update the software to get the software that will allow me to to create an Apple ID without giving my CC details, can you see where this is going?
 

cookiemonster

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Location
Hong Kong
Note to Phaeton - Put down the Daily Mail and take off the tin foill helmet!!!

I've been an Itunes customer for about 8 years now and have never had a problem with that.
 
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Note to Phaeton - Put down the Daily Mail and take off the tin foill helmet!!!

Don't read newspapers unless sat in a waiting room, no tin foil helmet, but I have worked for American companies for the past 20 years & one day you will probably have a problem like that, or maybe already have just not realised it which is what they are after, in the industry it's called a sweep & is a recognised method of increasing your companies bottom line.
 

AndyRM

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North Shields
Already tried those they don't work, I can't update the software to get to the software that those instructions are relevant to because I don't have the Apple ID that will allow me to update the software to get the software that will allow me to to create an Apple ID without giving my CC details, can you see where this is going?

You've not followed the instructions properly then. Apple have none of my card details and I've got an account with them.
 

CopperBrompton

Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
Location
London
Because after spending £2000+ on laptop and phone i really resented being forced to upgrade and spend more money because of forced obsolescence.
It costs nothing to upgrade. As Stu says, your machine - despite being five years old - will very happily run the very latest version of OS X, Yosemite. Yosemite not only adds a lot of nice functionality (not all of which will work on a 2009 machine, but much of it will), but is also more efficient.

Try running Win8 on a five-year-old Windows machine and see how that fares (and how much it costs you) ...
 

phil_hg_uk

I am not a member, I am a free man !!!!!!
Try running Win8 on a five-year-old Windows machine and see how that fares (and how much it costs you) ...


Actually I got a dell in the other day with a P4 CPU it must be at least 8 - 10 years old and that runs windows 8 very well, even I was suprised.

Unfortunate my very expensive macbook wasnt able to get any OS updates when it was less than 5 years old because Apple decided they didn't want to support it anymore.
 
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You've not followed the instructions properly then. Apple have none of my card details and I've got an account with them.
I stand corrected, I asked my 3 year old Grandson to show me how :wacko: Thank you,

However back on topic, the MacBook Pro is a nice piece of kit, but if it was my own money I would buy another make & install Linux, it's not worth the extra perceived status value, a bit like the iPhone yes it was the market leader was being the operative word.
 

AndyRM

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I think that the extra value you get from Apple is in the build quality and design. I'm in the market for a new laptop and have found Macbook Pro equivalents to be made out of rubbish plastic with little consideration for ergonomics. Makes them worth the extra for me.
 

phil_hg_uk

I am not a member, I am a free man !!!!!!
I think that the extra value you get from Apple is in the build quality and design. I'm in the market for a new laptop and have found Macbook Pro equivalents to be made out of rubbish plastic with little consideration for ergonomics. Makes them worth the extra for me.

What even though some of them are actually glued together and the ram is soldered in making repairs and upgrades next to impossible.
 

CopperBrompton

Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
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London
What even though some of them are actually glued together and the ram is soldered in making repairs and upgrades next to impossible.
Unfortunately, consumers value slimness over upgradability. :-(

Which, to be fair, does make sense for the 99% of the market that wouldn't dream of upgrading a computer. But it's the reason I'm planning to use my late-2011 MacBook Pro 17 for several years to come. I upgraded the RAM to 16GB and swapped the DVD drive for a second hard drive when I bought it, and later swapped the hard drives for SSDs. So add to the i7, twin-graphics-card, 1920x1200 screen that Apple provided, I now have a 2TB SSD, 16GB RAM machine. Three years later, it absolutely flies.
 
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