Dayvo
just passin' through
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Magpies
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Dayvo
just passin' through
- Location
- 59° 50′ 5.55″ N, 10° 47′ 41.89″ E
I was dive-bombed twice in Victoria (near to the SA border) by one.
Don't think our English ones do that. But I much prefer the sound that Australian magpies make:
View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ_pkvO5ia8
Anyway, I think they're vermin, and I wouldn't even put them in my pie.
thom
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- Location
- The Borough
A slight variation : my partner's sister is/was superstitious when growing up. On seeing a solitary magpie she would have to turn round 3 times as well as saying:
"Hello Mr Magpie, how are you today, where's your wife, your child and your family ?"
It could get quite tedious walking to & from school apparently.
I've never perceived anything sinister about them to be frank. That is all.
Arjimlad
Tights of Cydonia
- Location
- South Glos
[QUOTE 2463312, member: 9609"]nature would be much better of without you and your gun. Anyway, why do you have a gun ?"
Why do we do any hobbies or sport ?
I enjoy shooting as much as I do cycling or music. I shoot clays and game and do pest control on local farms.
If people like me didn't help the farmer by keeping woodpigeons off his crops, vegetarians would go hungry !
I love foraging for wild food. Shooting something yourself, bringing it home preparing cooking & eating it is very satisfying.
If I don't help keep the bunny numbers down on the local dairy farm, they get sick & die of malnutrition & disease.
I like taking a part in my local ecosystem as well as observing wildlife. I get out and spend time in places I wouldn't otherwise visit.
I also think it is important to take responsibility for the fact that eating meat means that an animal dies. What I shoot and eat has a fantastic ultimate free-range lifestyle and a clean death.
I respect the views of vegans but anyone else who uses animal products would struggle to object sustainably and logically to a personal humane harvest of wild meat.
Not that I eat magpies, though. Perhaps with some chilli sauce ?[/quote]
Why do we do any hobbies or sport ?
I enjoy shooting as much as I do cycling or music. I shoot clays and game and do pest control on local farms.
If people like me didn't help the farmer by keeping woodpigeons off his crops, vegetarians would go hungry !
I love foraging for wild food. Shooting something yourself, bringing it home preparing cooking & eating it is very satisfying.
If I don't help keep the bunny numbers down on the local dairy farm, they get sick & die of malnutrition & disease.
I like taking a part in my local ecosystem as well as observing wildlife. I get out and spend time in places I wouldn't otherwise visit.
I also think it is important to take responsibility for the fact that eating meat means that an animal dies. What I shoot and eat has a fantastic ultimate free-range lifestyle and a clean death.
I respect the views of vegans but anyone else who uses animal products would struggle to object sustainably and logically to a personal humane harvest of wild meat.
Not that I eat magpies, though. Perhaps with some chilli sauce ?[/quote]
TonyEnjoyD
Guru
- Location
- Newcastle upon Tyne
[QUOTE 2462103, member: 9609"]Another Successful Season 
pity the black cats finished above that dotted line (could be an easy six points next season though)[/quote]
Yawn
pity the black cats finished above that dotted line (could be an easy six points next season though)[/quote]
Yawn
Cycling Naturalist
Guru
- Location
- Llangollen
[QUOTE 2463900, member: 9609"]
I certainly don't have any problem with people eating what they shoot, but I am getting the impression you kill a fair bit more than you consume.[/quote]
That's often the case with pest control. Eating all those rats, foxes, magpies etc can get quite onerous.
I certainly don't have any problem with people eating what they shoot, but I am getting the impression you kill a fair bit more than you consume.[/quote]
That's often the case with pest control. Eating all those rats, foxes, magpies etc can get quite onerous.
Arjimlad
Tights of Cydonia
- Location
- South Glos
[QUOTE 2463900, member: 9609"]Do you get paid by the farmers for all this pest control, do they provide the guns and amo and pay you a decent hourly rate ? or is it voluntary all in your own time and expense.
I certainly don't have any problem with people eating what they shoot, but I am getting the impression you kill a fair bit more than you consume. In fact I get the impression you just like killing things with a gun.[/quote]
With over a hundred thousand others, I do this as a hobby at my own expense, and enjoy the whole experience. It's exciting and interesting and brings me closer to nature. Every time I go out I see loads of wildlife at all sorts of levels. Modern life, supermarkets and suchlike can insulate us completely from the natural world. This is how many people stay in touch with it and with our position in the food chain.
Nowadays I mainly shoot for the table. There's a load more to it than pulling the trigger.
When I was young, the lady next door used to moan at me for going shooting. She soon asked for my help when there was a rat in her kitchen though. When I used to get out at night on a piggery with a little torch, bopping off rats, no-one expected me to scoff them. It was challenging and enjoyable.
So, in your world, is the right approach - "it's OK as long as you don't enjoy it? "
Should we only eat meat slaughtered by others as a day job ?
Should we only observe rather than take part ? Should free citizens be deprived of the pleasures of the chase ? Should a meat-eater be banned (presumably by the state) from pursuing a pick-your-own aspect of their diet ?
Our wild populations of deer and other food sources need careful management due to our removal of historic predators.
Or should the countryside be returned to nature altogether (more red in tooth and claw than me and my fellow shooters!) and country businesses and inhabitants relocated to the city where they can eat factory farmed or laboratory created foodstuffs ?
Can the state/food production/forestry industries afford to employ and license pest controllers, deer stalkers and pigeon shooters ?
Is it time to agree to disagree and enjoy our shared love of cycling ?
I certainly don't have any problem with people eating what they shoot, but I am getting the impression you kill a fair bit more than you consume. In fact I get the impression you just like killing things with a gun.[/quote]
With over a hundred thousand others, I do this as a hobby at my own expense, and enjoy the whole experience. It's exciting and interesting and brings me closer to nature. Every time I go out I see loads of wildlife at all sorts of levels. Modern life, supermarkets and suchlike can insulate us completely from the natural world. This is how many people stay in touch with it and with our position in the food chain.
Nowadays I mainly shoot for the table. There's a load more to it than pulling the trigger.
When I was young, the lady next door used to moan at me for going shooting. She soon asked for my help when there was a rat in her kitchen though. When I used to get out at night on a piggery with a little torch, bopping off rats, no-one expected me to scoff them. It was challenging and enjoyable.
So, in your world, is the right approach - "it's OK as long as you don't enjoy it? "
Should we only eat meat slaughtered by others as a day job ?
Should we only observe rather than take part ? Should free citizens be deprived of the pleasures of the chase ? Should a meat-eater be banned (presumably by the state) from pursuing a pick-your-own aspect of their diet ?
Our wild populations of deer and other food sources need careful management due to our removal of historic predators.
Or should the countryside be returned to nature altogether (more red in tooth and claw than me and my fellow shooters!) and country businesses and inhabitants relocated to the city where they can eat factory farmed or laboratory created foodstuffs ?
Can the state/food production/forestry industries afford to employ and license pest controllers, deer stalkers and pigeon shooters ?
Is it time to agree to disagree and enjoy our shared love of cycling ?
Arjimlad
Tights of Cydonia
- Location
- South Glos
I refer to my post above which I hope explains that there is a whole lot more to this than simply killing things.
ArDee
Legendary Member
- Location
- North of Buntingford, Hetfordshire
Is this like dancing round saying a little poem, or whatever it is when somebody mentions the Scottish play in a theatre?
ArDee
Legendary Member
- Location
- North of Buntingford, Hetfordshire
That's better
Mobile Parasites? (Caravan, you see)