Marshalling time trials.

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Brandane

Legendary Member
Location
Costa Clyde
Yesterday I helped out (or so I thought) by being a motorbike escort for a time trial on the 10 mile circuit around the Isle of Cumbrae. This was entirely voluntary, and something I have never done before. I qualified to do it on the grounds that I have a motorbike!
The organisation was a bit, well, chaotic, to be honest. When I arrived on the Island an hour before the event start, I found the event organiser who was running around trying to do a hundred things at once. There were about 100 competitors doing the time trial, followed by a road race in the afternoon. I was given an orange hi-viz with "Cycle race marshall" printed on it, and told where the start point was. I was given no briefing on the rules or etiquette of road racing, and as a utility/touring cyclist I have never taken part in cycle racing of any type. So off I went to the start point, and set off about 30 meters or so in front of the first rider. As quicker riders came through, I was trying to keep a distance of about 30/50 meters in front of them.

Towards the end of the route, you come into a 30 mph zone. On one of the laps, a car decided to slow down to about 20/25 mph in front of me, and at that particular point an overtake was not possible. So the cyclist behind me caught up and was behind me for a minute or so until I was able to get past the car, which the cyclist then overtook, too (this guy was FAST, although I don't know if he was the ultimate winner or not). I then reinstated my gap for the short distance to the finish point, before going back to the start line and doing the route again for whoever happened to be setting off at that particular time. I did 4 circuits, then went back to the event HQ at the town hall.

As I got off my bike, some nobber sitting outside the place said to me "How many did you manage to get disqualified, then?"
I was a bit taken aback by this and asked him what he meant, to which he said "Was it someone you knew?". The penny then dropped that he was accusing me of allowing someone to draft the motorbike. Despite wanting to launch into a confrontation with the pratt, I just asked him if he was winding me up; but apparently he wasn't. So I went into the venue and got hold of the race organiser to find out what was going on, and if anyone had been disqualified as a result of my incompetent (??) marshalling. No-one had been disqualified. The organiser and myself then sought out the nobber, who was adamant that I had allowed someone to draft, and that there were 4 witnesses.

Anyway, the long and short of it; what are the rules (if any) for marshalling? I feel a bit hard done to that I was being criticised for something that was not my fault, either through lack of knowledge/training/briefing, or was unavoidable due to the presence of traffic. I didn't give up my Sunday (and my petrol, and ferry fare) to try and help out a race organiser in his hour of need, just for some nobber to let off steam at. Next year, when your event is struggling for marshalls, guess who WON'T be volunteering! Honestly, I am not an aggressive guy, as anyone on here who knows me will vouch for (I hope!), but I really wanted to put this guy on his ar5e yesterday.
 

jazzkat

Fixed wheel fanatic.
I don't know anything about marshalling on a motorbike, but good on you for at least volunteering to help. There are always people who are quick to shout there mouth off at what they perceive to be misdemeanour's or flagrant rule breaking. Was the person helping? Riding? or just blowing hot air?
 

Rob3rt

Man or Moose!
Location
Manchester
Why did they have a motorbike marshal in the 1st place would be my question (not being critical of you). Less traffic the better and a motorcycle escort/outrider is of no benefit and only serves to hinder.
 

ScotiaLass

Guru
Location
Middle Earth
You were given no rules to follow and you did what you felt was right, and IMO, from what you've written, you did a great job!
It sounds like the person spouting off was just a total d*ckhead :smile:
 
Location
Hampshire
I've never heard of a motorbike marshal being used in a time trial and can't see the point. Putting an untrained person with zero experience into the middle of the event was reckless and stupid in the extreme IMO.
 
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Brandane

Brandane

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Location
Costa Clyde
Why did they have a motorbike marshal in the 1st place would be my question (not being critical of you). Less traffic the better and a motorcycle escort/outrider is of no benefit and only serves to hinder.
I've never heard of a motorbike marshal being used in a time trial and can't see the point. Putting an untrained person with zero experience into the middle of the event was reckless and stupid in the extreme IMO.

I think the idea behind it was to have a motorbike leading the way as Millport is a bit of a unique situation, in that it is a flat, quiet, circular route which is VERY popular during the summer (weekends especially) with casual cyclists on hired bikes. They tend to wander all over the narrow road, and are from all age groups, and abilities. Last year there was apparently a lot of reports of confrontation between the event participants and the casual cyclists, to the extent that the Police got involved. Locals came down on the side of the casual tourist cyclists, who are the Island's bread and butter. There were threats to have the racing banned, so I think the marshalling was arranged to try and appease locals. My job, from the little I was told, was to basically try and clear a path for the event riders, and warn other road users of the fact that there was a race approaching.
 
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Brandane

Brandane

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Costa Clyde
I don't know anything about marshalling on a motorbike, but good on you for at least volunteering to help. There are always people who are quick to shout there mouth off at what they perceive to be misdemeanour's or flagrant rule breaking. Was the person helping? Riding? or just blowing hot air?
I think he was competing.
 

Rob3rt

Man or Moose!
Location
Manchester
They should in future place adequite signage on the course and not stick a motorbike out on the course.

Of course none of this is a criticism of you, you were kind enough to volunteer your time etc and did as asked.
 

Beebo

Firm and Fruity
Location
Hexleybeef
Something to consider is, Does your insurance cover you for marshalling bike races?
 
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Brandane

Brandane

Legendary Member
Location
Costa Clyde
Something to consider is, Does your insurance cover you for marshalling bike races?
Good point, and I suppose it comes down to interpretation of "social" "domestic" and "pleasure". It may have been social; not domestic, and ultimately I have had more pleasurable experiences, so it wasn't that either! It will be my get-out clause next year. Actually I will just tell him the truth, that I am unwilling to give up my time to help because of the conduct of one individual this year.
 

DaveReading

Don't suffer fools gladly (must try harder!)
Location
Reading, obvs
Never realized you meant Millport :blush: silly place for a road race imo

It was a great place to learn to ride a bike, though, many years ago. I remember how all the midges gave you a strong incentive to keep your feet on the pedals - when you put them on the ground the little devils would bite your ankles. :rolleyes:
 
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Brandane

Brandane

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Location
Costa Clyde
Never realized you meant Millport :blush: silly place for a road race imo
In hindsight, I have to agree. With credit to the organisers, they do not race through the town centre (Millport), but they use the rest of the island (Cumbrae). The TT starts just to the far side of the town (south west corner) and goes clockwise around the island until just short of the town centre area on the south east side.
The 40 mile race in the afternoon is similar but does 6 laps of the hill climb over the middle of the island to make up the distance without going into the centre of town.
However you are correct, it is not the best place to hold a race, and I won't have any involvement in the future.
 
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