Meeting another group of riders

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snorri

Legendary Member
You learn over the years and you still make an attempt.
If you really wish to communicate you have to make yourself clear, a feeble attempt just confuses the other party.
I don't agree with the second paragraph of your last post either, but can't help thinking it has something to do with parents bringing up children to believe in 'stranger danger' thus introducing a suspicion of strangers which seems to carry on into adulthood for some.
 

Learnincurve

Senior Member
Location
Chesterfield
I'm old I wear lycra, I speak to anybody, where do I fit in ?
Are you perchance a VFOM (very fit old man) or aspiring to be one? They are without doubt the kings of the canal path as they ride along at a far faster pace and longer distance than any one else will be able to do, usually on 30 year old steel. You may not get a smile from them but that's because their super sayan senses have detected a 30 year old in lycra, on a expensive bike who thinks he's special 4 miles along the path, and they are concentrating on catching him up and overtaking. They will allow themselves a wry smile when they pass, but only if no one else is looking.
 

AndyRM

XOXO
Location
North Shields
If you been to Canada, NZ, Oz, as you pass a total stranger on a path or enter an elevator with one, you will to get a greeting, a smile and maybe a bit of banter. In the US, it depends on neighbourhood. In Japan, you get a nod and a smile. The same with South East Asia. The northern Europeans are rather private but if you share a similar interest such as cycling, you get the nod and a smile and maybe a chat about the gear you have.

In the UK, you have to size folks up and amazingly its has nothing to do with our neighbourhood. Its our class system and our notorious and rather world famous stiff upper lip. Its actually eats into us to crack open a smile in the off chance that it is might be the hired help.

You've posted some utter gubbins on here, but you've excelled yourself with this.

Chapeau.
 
@User14044 has the same problem with folk not returning his smile.

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That's one of the best pictures of @User14044 I've seen in a long while :giggle:
 
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If you really wish to communicate you have to make yourself clear, a feeble attempt just confuses the other party.
I don't agree with the second paragraph of your last post either, but can't help thinking it has something to do with parents bringing up children to believe in 'stranger danger' thus introducing a suspicion of strangers which seems to carry on into adulthood for some.

You need to visit other countries, it gives a perspective about cultures. In these countries when you go out as part of work, you get invited for family BBQs, meals etc. Not in the UK. Its not in our DNA.
 
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I wonder if these feelings that you get are more about you than what others are doing? Do you have an unusually small bike?

Not when cycling, when you pass them on foot going into a cafe or out etc during a stopover. I understand when some people prefer to concentrate when cycling. The group I am with are a friendly bunch and this was with a group. We noticed this of the fast group club types.
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
[parody]I am not sure if its the same with the rest of you, but when I meet a car driver coming out of cafe, or walking to where their car is parked, there is this tension in the air and occasionally a nod but not a friendly nod with a smile. Talking about the fast boys all decked with latest driving gloves and raybans.

I am not sure if its the same with the rest of you, but when I meet a group of bus passengers off their bus coming out of cafe, or walking to the bus stop, there is this tension in the air and occasionally a nod but not a friendly nod with a smile. Talking about the fat group all decked with shell suits and carrier bags.

I am not sure if its the same with the rest of you, but when I meet a group of rail commuters off their trains coming out of cafe, or walking to the station, there is this tension in the air and occasionally a nod but not a friendly nod with a smile. Talking about the rich group all decked with latest suits and tablets.

I am not sure if its the same with the rest of you, but when I meet a group of pedestrians off their arses coming out of cafe, or walking to where they want to go, there is this tension in the air and occasionally a nod but not a friendly nod with a smile. Talking about the normal group all decked with latest shoes and clothes. [/parody]

you+me=/=we

Complete stranger+bike+in passing=complete stranger with bike in passing=/=potential best buddy with bike



you+me=/=we
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Nah, it's nothing to do with fast/slow, but just the blooming townies isn't it? Us villagers usually say hi, but say hi as you pass someone in town and they look at you like you're an axe murderer. Most fast bike clubs are based around towns, so behave like townies ;)
 
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