Middle lane hoggers.

[Fnaar]

evidence-free assertions

Good band name, that

 

[User482]

Good band name, that

Warm-up act for the Duckworth-Lewis Method...

 

[green1]

Warm-up act for the Duckworth-Lewis Method...

I wonder if there will be a new album with there being back to back Ashes series this year.

 

[PK99]

Ah, so you don't have anything other than evidence-free assertions. Thanks for confirming.

It is self evident that hogging the middle lane at below the speed limit must lead to a build up behind the hogger in anything other than the lightest of traffic by reducing the carrying capacity of the road.
The rule is HWC 268 - only in congested conditions where lanes are moving at similar speeds is passing on the inside within the HWC rules.

theclaud is clearly very perceptive.

 

[User482]

It is self evident that hogging the middle lane at below the speed limit must lead to a build up behind the hogger in anything other than the lightest of traffic by reducing the carrying capacity of the road.
The rule is HWC 268 - only in congested conditions where lanes are moving at similar speeds is passing on the inside within the HWC rules.

theclaud is clearly very perceptive.

1. Reduced speed increases the carrying capacity of the road.
2. A middle lane hogger does not prevent vehicles from using the other 2 lanes, contrary to your previous assertion.
3. HWC 268 is advice, not a legal requirement.

I can only assume that you enjoy being wrong.

 

[paul04]

Then there's always the HGV driver who has a restriction of 56mph trying to overtake another that also has a 56mph restriction, who somehow thinks taking 5 miles to pass him to get one lorry length in front is going to get him to the ferry port soooo much earlier. It's madness out there.

As I drive a HGV, hopefully I can add a little bit to this
Yes there are limited to 56mph, but they do take some power to get to 56 mph, so most HGV drivers like to keep at 56mph and try not to back off, because say 10 mintues lost because you have to slow down could mean the difference in missing your slot on a delivery, or even worse going over your driving hours.

 

[skudupnorth]

It's about time our goverment did something although how are they going to Police it ? When i have driven in Germany any sort of lane hogging is a massive no,no ! If it's not the local plod feeling your collar then the chance of a Merc doing a zillion miles an hour inches off your rear bumper normally gets the message across ! I will stick to lane one with the trucks happily getting great MPG

 

[skudupnorth]

That has to result in an impact fairly quickly

Oh yes ! You look in the rear view mirror at a set of lights gaining at such a rate of knots you think what bloody speed are they doing ?? I've seen big Mercs pushing Porsche's out of the way !

 

[skudupnorth]

Are we talking about a road here or a video game?

Real life Don't do video games.....more fun doing the real thing and watching lane hoggers get pushed !

 

[Dan B]

The rule is HWC 268 - only in congested conditions where lanes are moving at similar speeds is passing on the inside within the HWC rules.

The HC description (with diagrams!) of overtaking is full of references to sideways motion: phrases like "move out", "Allow plenty of room", "Move back to the left", "do not cut in", " the lane you will be joining", "overtaking manoeuvre", "pull back in". If you are in lane 1 and you are staying in lane 1, does the act of driving in a straight line without changing lane really constitute an overtake just because someone in lane 2 happens to be going more slowly than you? I note that in congested conditions, " you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right" and that the editors of the HC have chosen to use the word "passing" here, not "overtaking". I wonder if this is deliberate

 

[Maz]

'Middle lane hogging'...isn't that the same thing as 'riding in primary'?

 

[Dan B]

As I drive a HGV, hopefully I can add a little bit to this
Yes there are limited to 56mph, but they do take some power to get to 56 mph, so most HGV drivers like to keep at 56mph and try not to back off, because say 10 mintues lost because you have to slow down could mean the difference in missing your slot on a delivery, or even worse going over your driving hours.

If the vehicle in front is doing 55, and you are stuck behind it for a whole hour, at the end of that hour you will be one mile further from your destination than you would otherwise have been. If you then speed up to 56 mph, it will take 1/56th of an hour (as in, a bit more than a minute) to cover the remaining distance. To lose ten whole minutes, therefore, you would have had to have been stuck behind the slowcoach for something over nine hours - are you really allowed to drive for that long without a break?

 

[User482]

[QUOTE 2491215, member: 9609"]So if all vehicles moved at 5mph our transport network would be more efficient?
Therefore presumably the HS2 goal of the railways is clearly flawed[/quote]
Define efficient.

 

[goody]

I don't use motorways much, when I do I normally drive at 60ish in lane one. Sometimes you come up to a point where lane 1 is clear but lane 2 has a few cars going just a bit slower than me, do I then move all the way over to lane 3 still going 60ish getting in the way of the cars doing 70+ or do I just carry on in lane 1?

 

[mr_cellophane]

At the junction with the M25 anti-clockwise and the M11, the M25 is two lanes over the M11 and the roads up from each carriageway merge to become another two lanes (making 4). The majority of drivers joining the M25 immediately move one lane to their right even when the road in front of them is clear.