Millibland, New Messiah or New-era windbag?

[Basil.B]

All a waste of space, except for Tony Benn.

 

[Cycling Naturalist]

He fits in fine - labour are much more suited to opposition and carping from the benches, which is where they'll be for a long time. The responsibility of government is too much for Labour whereas the Tories really want the power, doesn't mean they're any good mind. Doomed.

The left often admit this - the Tories grab power, whereas a lot of Labour politicians agonise over the sort of decisions they'll have to make in power.

"Minister, we just need you to sign off 100,000 torture batons to Syria."
"I'm not doing that."
"Fair enough, but they are made by a factory in your constituency."

 

[Red Light]

Someone like Dennis Skinner would have no chance of getting elected these days, more's the pity.

I quite like Boris - you can't accuse him of being bland and he probably is electable.

 

[Andy in Sig]

I'd go along with that. People like Boris, Dennis Skinner and a few others are worth their weight as politicians per se, irrespective of what you may think of their actual politics. Millisqueak and most of the rest of the current crop are just production line non-entities.

 

[twobiker]

How long before Balls is plotting to replace him.

 

[Andy in Sig]

Won't happen as he is utterly unelectable as PM and I imagine that the only person who would unite behind him would be his wife as she wouldn't exactly have a choice in the matter.

 

[MacB]

I can't warm to Ed and it's very easy to miss what is being said while hypnotically entranced by his mouth. But he was actually making a fair amount of sense around the area of a new form of capitalism...or some might say a return to an older form.

 

[Keith Oates]

He doesn't look to me as being a future Prime Minister but having said that there is nobody of either of the parties that would inspire me to vote for them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Rapples]

I can't warm to Ed and it's very easy to miss what is being said while hypnotically entranced by his mouth. But he was actually making a fair amount of sense around the area of a new form of capitalism...or some might say a return to an older form.

Much of his speech has a very right of centre feel to it, even the Mail finds itself agreeing ith a lot of it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...ruths-death-New-Labour.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

In trying to appeal to Tory voters (which the party needs to do to win) he alienates the centre left of the party. It's the same problem the Tories had after NuLabour "nicked" the centre right vote. He's trying to avoid the mistake the Tories made of moving back to it's core vote. His problem is in trying to appease the left with his "new capitalism" he alienates business, as the Mail have pointed out.

It is the "older form" the idea that we can have our cake and eat it.

 

[MissTillyFlop]

I know it's bad, but I just can't get past the speech impediment and the fact he looks like he was created in Jim Henson's creature workshop. He's not a real person, he has no concept of the brutal realities of life - he's not even good at PRETENDING he does.

I know everyone hated Neil Kinnock, but at least he believed in something and had the courage to stick to it instead of changing his mind every four minutes to please "Middle England".

Who/where is "Middle England"? Some one PLEASE tell me. I have been searching fervently all around the UK to find this place, apparently populated by gorgeous families who all wear Arran sweaters whilst reading the Daily Mail/Times in their 4x4.

I have yet to find it.

 

[MacB]

I know everyone hated Neil Kinnock, but at least he believed in something and had the courage to stick to it instead of changing his mind every four minutes to please "Middle England".

yep, he believed in Kinnock and the Kinnock 'dynasty', or certainly his family performance on the european stage attests to that.

 

[GaryA]

The same appeal to mild populist anti-establishment sentiment when in opposistion but we can guarantee it will revert to big business whoring and cronyism if they get elected..
Look at the liberal party, who are doing both simultaneously.

 

[Crackle]

yep, he believed in Kinnock and the Kinnock 'dynasty', or certainly his family performance on the european stage attests to that.

I always credit Kinnock with getting rid of the militant section of the labour party, the Derek Hattons et al. He put the foundations in for Smith and then Blair.

 

[Red Light]

Who/where is "Squeezed Middle England"? Some one PLEASE tell me.

FTFY

 

[Fab Foodie]

Who/where is "Middle England"? Some one PLEASE tell me. I have been searching fervently all around the UK to find this place, apparently populated by gorgeous families who all wear Arran sweaters whilst reading the Daily Mail/Times in their 4x4.

I have yet to find it.

Come to the street where I live, it's there in spades ....