Motion blur on LCD tv's

[marinyork]

Freeview HD will establish itself and it will be a lot sooner than people think. Whether it is worth getting, especially for the price of boxes that aren't out yet is another matter.

Freesat might come with your tv, depending on what you buy. I don't think many people will be that bothered until Channel 4 and ITV are on all platforms and in the case of ITV is a proper channel. Despite the ranting and raving elsewhere I think that's what most people are bothered about, oh and the BBC getting their arse in gear and doing a proper simulcast.

 

[Shaun]

Oh, and another tip - get some decent SCART leads - don't use the £1.50 ones to connect your boxes to your shiny new posh TV.

Sky+HD looks good and is being pushed to death at the minute, but the one bit they fail to put in bold letters is the extra £9.75 for the HD subscription.

Just so long as you understand HD will cost you another tenner a month via Sky I suppose that's okay.

Cheers,
Shaun

 

[ianrauk]

Sorry, should have said not on Virgin Media tv

The Tour has been in HD since 2007 and the giro 2008? Anyway might be getting my years mixed up. The vuelta would be good, I'm not sure that's even shot in HD at all and seemed not so good even on standard eurosport.

 

[marinyork]

Sorry, should have said not on Virgin Media tv

Nor here which is why I'm waiting for Eurosport HD. It's one of the maybe channels for Virgin in the pipeline. I was quite chuffed when Eurosport 2 went widescreen!

 

[twowheelsgood]

Oh, and another tip - get some decent SCART leads - don't use the £1.50 ones to connect your boxes to your shiny new posh TV.

Better still avoid a box that doesn't have a digital output. The box I have is total sh*te but I have no choice, no amount of platinum plated cablery is going to change that. It's branded UPC and like many cheapo boxes, putting it in "standby" does nothing but blank the picture. It still uses the same power at the wall and the audio outputs are still live!

These things really should be banned, a few 10s of millions of these plugged in 24/7 is no joke. Thankfully I beleive there is some EU legislation on the way mandating minimum power consumption on standby. There is no reason bar cheapness to draw more than a few milliwats (actually there is; cold-start time but I can live with that).

 

[sheddy]

not a problem - just switch it off at the wall (please tell me there's no problem wth that ?)

 

[marinyork]

not a problem - just switch it off at the wall (please tell me there's no problem wth that ?)

Yes. My v+ can take upto ten minutes to boot itself up and sort itself out so you can do mundane things like change channel (and populate the EPG).

 

[Fab Foodie]

Depends what you watch.

Like for like LCDs compare very favourably with CRTs. Most of the moaning is when people don't do that.

I can't say I've done a back to back comparison, but I've yet to see a flat screen TV that I'd readily swap for my old Trinitron on the basis of picture quality. They may well exist but at what kind of investment?

 

[marinyork]

I can't say I've done a back to back comparison, but I've yet to see a flat screen TV that I'd readily swap for my old Trinitron on the basis of picture quality. They may well exist but at what kind of investment?

And how much did your triniton first retail for when it was on sale ?

 

[Fab Foodie]

And how much did your triniton first retail for when it was on sale ?

£600.
My point is that most people I know have spent an awful lot of money on TV's that to me are no better and most are waay worst than my 20 y/old technolgy

 

[marinyork]

£600.
My point is that most people I know have spent an awful lot of money on TV's that to me are no better and most are waay worst than my 20 y/old technolgy

Well I wasn't clear but when I said like for like I really also meant on price. £600. There are some fabulous LCDs out there but LCD always was the budget technology. I know people that have spent £5000 on tvs. You could go out and spend £2000-3000 on an LED backlit LCD tomorrow and they are fabulous tvs. In some ways they aren't really that much better than the £600 sets. For a couple of grand you could get a cheaper set (but not that cheap), a bike, a blu-ray player and a fairly large collection of blu-rays. Some people spent a great deal on tvs in todays money in the distant past.

I wouldn't say that tvs are necessarily way worse. If you use your tvs in different ways there are some big pluses. You can plug your tv into a PC easily. Huge benefits. You also get a vastly better picture out of 7th gen games consoles (all right Wii graphics could be better) than all the other things that ran on rf/scart nice ish. You can do all kinds of things you couldn't do before. It depends what you use it for. If you just use it for watching SD and 1-5 you're not going to be too chuffed with all these new fangled things. The big backwards step is probably lifetime.