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vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
I contend that the rider could have got around the bend. He bottled it a bit where he should have accelerated but then target fixation kicked in and his primary focus became the car rather then the line that would have got him round, severely shaken but with his bike in one piece.

Been there and done it in my feckless youth and thankfully my sense of immortality has long since abandoned me. The impetuous nature of youthful exuberance explains the event but doesn't excuse it.
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
[QUOTE 3008797, member: 9609"]32 years since I road big bikes fast so I have to declare no relevant experience at all. Sadly that video really does tempt me to get a big bike, there's nothing quite like it.[/QUOTE]

There's no denying the buzz from a fast ride but when things go wrong the fall out takes several washes to dislodge it from your underwear.
 

Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
Ha-ha! What in idiot. I hope he is banned for riding like that. He is a nutter who thinks the roads are his own private race track. He will kill some one, one day, hopefully himself. Hope he pays for the damage to the wall/fence as well. His bike should be crushed if it is still rideable.
 

Cubist

Still wavin'
Location
Ovver 'thill
His line choice throughout was appalling, but most of all he hugs the left hand side on a left hander. At speed there is only going to be one outcome, and that is to run wide. Had he tried to go,further left when he spotted the car he would have been fighting a lot of forces to get the bike there, and this may have been worse. As it is, a good rider choosing a good line could have ridden that bend far faster, and far safer. As @User9609 says, a line on the right hand kerb approaching that bend would have given him enough sight line to see the oncoming car. At that point he could have slowed simply by throttling back and drifted back left in time for the car to pass, or he could simply have taken a far straighter line from the offside kerb onto the apex and been heading for an exit point which again would have taken him safely t the left of the oncoming car. A good rider could have been hard on the throttle from the apex, and never even troubled the oncoming car.

My qualifications?
I rode very big bikes, far too fast, on roads like the Cat for a very long time. I started riding when I was 17 and finally hung up my leathers after a near fatal SMIDSY when I was 34. I didn't own a car until i was 35. My favourite roads were the A 65 Keighley to the Dales and the A57 Glossop to Ladybower and home via Strines. Police driver training teaches you a lot about making fast, safe progress and line choice.
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
At the risk of wanting something that no sane person should want, perhaps we should ask contributors to confirm whether they have genuine relevant experience. I don't.

that's crazy talk; this is.the internet remember !
 

glasgowcyclist

Charming but somewhat feckless
Location
Scotland
The motorcyclist has now been convicted of dangerous driving and will be sentenced next week. He's also looking at a £1000 bill from the farmer for his fence.

In his defence he told the court, "I was in full control until I hit the fence. I drove into the fence to avoid a collision."

If that were true he wouldn't have found himself on the wrong side of the road facing an oncoming car. And had he forgotten about all his dangerous riding in the time leading up to his crash? Nobber.

GC
 
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Cycling Dan

Cycling Dan

Cycle Crazy
£1,000 for the fence?
Seems the old farmer wants a little more than the fence is worth to replace.
Maybe he's been told he's not getting his grants this month
 

Beebo

Firm and Fruity
Location
Hexleybeef
I imagine £1,000 will be the upper limit of his financial claim. IIRC you have to put an upper limit on a claim to give the court an idea of how much the claim is.He's basically saying he isnt looking to claim any more than £1,000.
 

Saluki

World class procrastinator
Jack Sanderson from Cheshire crashed on the A537 Cat and Fiddle road, in Cheshire, after his motorbike crossed the white line and he swerved to avoid an oncoming car.
Oh, so it wasn't the rider's fault then. The motorbike crossed the line and took him with it!

That Cat & Fiddle route is great fun and easy to get wrong. I used to ride that with a little more respect for oncoming vehicles. That accident was definitely a case of TFF.
 
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