Motorist bites back... and proves beyond all doubt that he is a c*ck

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lejogger

lejogger

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OP's mistake was to confront the driver which could have meant that things could have got ugly, possibly very ugly indeed. A cyclist is never going to come off better in these situations however much you think you can handle it. Best avoid and move on.
Again, we can agree to disagree on this. I'd do the same thing again tonight should I be passed dangerously. We're not talking about an irate cyclist confronting motorists with the intention of unloading a piece of their mind or verbally abusing them... I firmly believe that that vast majority of close passes are the result of ill-judgement, a lack of anticipation, or a lack of understanding about how much room is acceptable, not a malicious attempt to cause harm or distress.
Maybe that's a naive view, but what's going to stop them doing the same thing over and over again and possibly causing an accident unless they're told that it's a problem?
 
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lejogger

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Have you reported the pr1ck?
I did attempt to memorise his number plate but to be honest my head was too full of the incident to recall it. I wouldn't have reported it anyway I don't think. I didn't have any witness details and there wasn't really an incident to report as such. Certainly nothing that the Police would have followed up.
 

Crankarm

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Again, we can agree to disagree on this. I'd do the same thing again tonight should I be passed dangerously. We're not talking about an irate cyclist confronting motorists with the intention of unloading a piece of their mind or verbally abusing them... I firmly believe that that vast majority of close passes are the result of ill-judgement, a lack of anticipation, or a lack of understanding about how much room is acceptable, not a malicious attempt to cause harm or distress.
Maybe that's a naive view, but what's going to stop them doing the same thing over and over again and possibly causing an accident unless they're told that it's a problem?

Well you carry right on. Just make sure you have an escape route as you don't know the temperament of the person who is driving the vehicle. I wasn't suggesting that you were an irate cyclist or that you verbally abused the driver. On the contrary you came across as very restrained. Your post didn't suggest you were irate, annoyed or angry, maybe you were, so why raise it now? It's not about you or your crusade, it's about the individual driving who can potentially do you a lot of harm or kill you using their vehicle whether they then claim it was accidental or a court decides they were reckless or they did it intentionally you will still be dead or very seriously injured. Just not worth it. I am sure your family would agree?

Cyclists have been run down and killed.

Read this sobering case,

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/ne...maging-wing-mirror-court-told-92746-23432533/
 

Andrew_P

In between here and there
There is another side to this. If you choose to confront a driver who has close passed or pulled out on you and then you decide that discretion is the better part of valour and leave as they are over agressive, these sort of twats see that as a good reason to then bully and harrass you as their some what warped perception is that you "bottled it" and thus their ego can now be massaged to their hearts content.

The above is one of the reasons I avoid it as much as I can, I had one turn nasty like the above. You realise that their is not a lot you can do to get away if they have got the bit between their teeth. The only way is to stop and see if it is going to escalate, even then you might find all they do is wait further up the road waiting for a second helping.
 

Globalti

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When I was about 15 and coming out of school a bloke in an ice cream van put his bumper against the back wheel of my bike and forced me out into the traffic on the A1 going north out of Newcastle. I turned around to remonstrate and thought no more of it. I crossed the road and joined my girlfriend to walk home with her, wheeling my bike. Next thing the ice-cream van bounced up onto the pavement and a small swarthy man jumped out, said: "My mate says you told me to feck off" (which I didn't) and smacked me in the teeth, breaking one and causing himself to need seven stitches. Police said he had done robbery with violence and would probably go to prison; in the end he was let off with a caution. I got £250 from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Board, which I transformed into urine over the space of a couple of years.

That's why I ignore aggressive drivers.
 

Psyclist

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I had sort of similar happen a few months ago whilst driving when a twit decided to use their (borrowed) Renault van as a weapon of force against me when they tried to force into a pinch point at the end of a long queue which I was at the front of and that they had just jumped.

You can be as agresssive as you want to be on the road, but when things come together, you want to be in the bigger and heavier lump (which I was) - I'd not argue with an agressive car driver if I was on a cycle if I realied that they could easily catch me up and try and bat me off the bike.

Better to avoid confriontation where possible as it could hurt a lot and cost a packet

Motorist did the same to me when I gave them the finger for nearly knocking me off on around about....caught up with me and rammed into my bike knocking me off, then whilst I was getting up he smacked me in the jaw, had someone in hospistal who I was going to see, so just picked up my bike and carried on riding with my slightly un-true wheel....wish I had 'defended' myself and reported him now.
 
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It only takes one ... :sad: (That was a couple of miles from where I grew up.)
That happened just round the corner from where I live.
These days I very rarely react to the bad driving I see, go back about twenty years and I would react and say something, now I recon its not worth it, you don't who you're dealing with or how they are going to react to you.
 
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Scary, isn't it! I remembered it because it was so close to where I often cycled as a child. (Brownshill Green Road, Waste Lane, Tamworth Road to Corley.)

Yes, an incident like that so close to home makes you think about who you you are sharing the roads with and what you might find yourself dealing with if you are involved in an incident.
 

Crankarm

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We already have - in my post #15! :thumbsup:

You shoutin' at me?!!! Eh, eh! I take it bold is shoutin'? Outside ........now! ;)

See how things can easily escalate and we aren't even out on the roads ......

Be careful out there. There ARE pyschos who drive cars.

Saw a car today that looked like a ped/cyclist had gone through the windscreen. The Milton Road in Cambridge was closed most of the afternoon except for peds and cyclists using the pavement and cycle path on it. It reminded me of the windscreen that I examined many years ago where a driver had collided with a cyclist throwing them up and through the windscreen. Where the head hit the glass was a perfect bowl impression of the scull with hair and blood. Gruesome. This afternoon the police had totally closed the road to vehicles and traffic cops were everywhere. Don't know if it was a cyclist but ....

Then this morning I saw another cyclist almost meet their maker on a roundabout as a small black car, why are they mostly always black or silver cars driven by young bimbo girls who are driving and dialing? Anyway this bimbo pulled straight out into the cyclist who had right of way around the roundabout. He was dressed in the ubiquitous yellow hi viz. Christ did he scream for his life! I thought he was going to be hit and he tried to fend off the car with his arms. God only knows how she didn't hit him. The cyclist was about 50-55 year old and looked a seasoned cyclist. I asked if he was ok. The blonde bimbo sped off. Told the cyclist to get on the pavement on the cycle path as it's safer and where I cycle. The roads are TOO dangerous to ride on.
 
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lejogger

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I think all of my posts are now having some sort of influence on people, meaning they have to confront everyone as well. Sorry lejogger if this is true.
I am aware of a few of your posts and some of the criticism you received (rightly or wrongly) early on in your forum life, yet these have not had any bearing on how I choose to conduct myself in conversations or interactions with motorists or otherwise.
Please be reassured that you have not influenced my behaviour on the roads. :thumbsup:
 
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