Motorist Reports Self to Police

[spen666]

Those with an IQ above room temperature will be aware that everyone has an IQ, even those who seemingly don't understand what the term means, and that it does not demonstrate a great deal of intelligence to continue to (a) misrepresent the topic of a debate in a written forum where anyone can see for themselves what was actually said, and (b) argue with the law even after the exact wording has been posted and a police officer has explained that it is an offence.

Some people can't seemingly understand the obvious.

So what if a police officer has posted what the law is. I hate to tell you, police officers are not the law and it has been known for police officers to get the law wrong. You may just ask yourself why the CPS came into existence - yes, thats right because the police were not prosecuting cases properly and were not experts in the criminal process.

The responsibility of a police officer is not to know the criminal law, but to keep the queen's peace.

 

[uclown2002]

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Why did he stop to report the incident to the police?
- it may have had something t o do with trying to get his version in first given the mistaken belief he had about me and my status. I think he misinterpretated my cycling jersey as indicating my job

That says everything!

 

[CopperBrompton]

You may just ask yourself why the CPS came into existence - yes, thats right because the police were not prosecuting cases properly

You don't have much experience with the CPS, do you ...

 

[spen666]

You don't have much experience with the CPS, do you ...

No, apart from working as a defence lawyer since the 1980s. So, no, I have no experience at all of the CPS. However, whether or not I have experience of the CPS is irrelevant to why the CPS were set up.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Incidentally, this is not just my opinion, I have spoken about this issue with senior police officers (ACPO level) who confirm no offence is being committed by wearing such a vest

So what if a police officer has posted what the law is. I hate to tell you, police officers are not the law and it has been known for police officers to get the law wrong.

Hmmm..


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[spen666]

[QUOTE 3279605, member: 45"]Key word in bold.[/QUOTE]
What is key about that?

I have worked as a prosecutor as well ( not for the CPS) and have spent years inspecting the CPS as well.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

CPS guidance on the offence supports @CopperCyclist's post:

"You should consider the motive of the defendant. Where the impersonation involves a threat to the safety of any person, or to property, or is done with a view to financial gain, then a prosecution should follow."
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This is why you're highly unlikely to see a horse rider or a cyclist charged with the offence, they're probably doing it to obtain some safety benefit rather than for some criminal deception.

Now, if there were an offence of dressing like a nobber*...


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(* awaits the obvious reply!)

 

[benb]

It's pretty obvious that by the strict letter of the law, an offence is being committed, and equally obvious why no prosecutions have been brought.

 

[spen666]

Just re reading this thread, I wanted to make it clear that I was not wearing a "Polite" Hi Viz vest nor do I own any such item

 

[w00hoo_kent]

Just re reading this thread, I wanted to make it clear that I was not wearing a "Polite" Hi Viz vest nor do I own any such item

Then, out of interest, when you suggested that the driver might have been confused about your attire, what were you wearing?

I had presumed it was something to do with the remembrance ride that you did, but then you made it seem that you fully agreed you were wearing a "Polite" Hi Viz so I presumed I was wrong. Had you fooled me in to thinking you were something you weren't?

 

[spen666]

Then, out of interest, when you suggested that the driver might have been confused about your attire, what were you wearing?

I had presumed it was something to do with the remembrance ride that you did, but then you made it seem that you fully agreed you were wearing a "Polite" Hi Viz so I presumed I was wrong. Had you fooled me in to thinking you were something you weren't?

I was wearing as I normally do the jersey from the ride you refer to. It has emblazoned across it UK POLICE UNITY TOUR which is the name of the event

Why do I wear it?
a) I bought it, so why not wear it
b) I am proud to be a member of the Unity Tour
c) It raises awareness of the event

 

[briantrumpet]

What is key about that?

I have worked as a prosecutor as well ( not for the CPS) and have spent years inspecting the CPS as well.

Aha, so I put it to you, sir, that contrary to your earlier statement, you have got some experience of the CPS. Why then should we believe anything you say?

(Sorry, I've watched too many episodes of Crown Court and Rumpole. My script is more Rumpole than Crown Court: please don't take a word of what I've said seriously.)

 

[spen666]

Aha, so I put it to you, sir, that contrary to your earlier statement, you have got some experience of the CPS. Why then should we believe anything you say?

(Sorry, I've watched too many episodes of Crown Court and Rumpole. My script is more Rumpole than Crown Court: please don't take a word of what I've said seriously.)

I said I did have experience of the CPS!

Nothing wrong with Rumpole

 

[briantrumpet]

I said I did have experience of the CPS!

Nothing wrong with Rumpole

I submit exhibit A, m'lud.

So, no, I have no experience at all of the CPS.

Is this in your own handwriting, sir?

(OK, I'll put the wig on. My great-great-great-great grandfather was a perukier, so I'm sure I can get a wig from the attic. It might be a bit moth-eaten though. Sorry.)

 

[jarlrmai]

Fair enough