Motorsports Thread

[ebikeerwidnes]

Remember that Lewis missed 2 (I think) races and was below par for the next one

If he had not got Covid he would have scored at least some point in those races - hence Max would have been further behind and may not have raced SO aggressively

The whole season could have been different - but basically Lewis probably would have won

 

[classic33]

Remember that Lewis missed 2 (I think) races and was below par for the next one

If he had not got Covid he would have scored at least some point in those races - hence Max would have been further behind and may not have raced SO aggressively

The whole season could have been different - but basically Lewis probably would have won

Covid, was that a year ago?

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Covid, was that a year ago?

Hmm - maybe I was a bit out

but apparently it was still affecting him

 

[classic33]

Hmm - maybe I was a bit out

but apparently it was still affecting him

George Russell stepped into his car for one race. Last but one, and lead until a late pitstop, call made by the team, cost him his first win.

 

[Jody]

Lost one due to being over confident about his abilities. Ending up in the gravel trap after his tyres gave up

I believe there is more to it than that but he can't say. I assume contractually obliged not to.

 

[gbb]

Ultimately, it came down to the last lap, Verstappen not surprisingly harried Hamilton in the run up to the restart, no doubt trying to distract him, seems all fair in love and war to me...Hamilton made a mistake, lost momentum / grip, position, Verstappen made the most of it. Rest is history, seems fair to me.
The run up to that was ridiculous but notwithstanding, its what happened on the last lap that mattered

 

[Drago]

The race? Meh.

Listening to Toto whine like a spoiled brat, and see his face looking so glum was far more interesting than the cars going round in circles.

Clearly a petulant man who dyes his hair and isn't married to a Spice Girl has a lot of anger issues.

 

[classic33]

The race? Meh.

Listening to Toto whine like a spoiled brat, and see his face looking so glum was far more interesting than the cars going round in circles.

Clearly a petulant man who dyes his hair and isn't married to a Spice Girl has a lot of anger issues.

He's married to an ex Williams test driver, Suzie.

 

[Beebo]

Ultimately, it came down to the last lap, Verstappen not surprisingly harried Hamilton in the run up to the restart, no doubt trying to distract him, seems all fair in love and war to me...Hamilton made a mistake, lost momentum / grip, position, Verstappen made the most of it. Rest is history, seems fair to me.
The run up to that was ridiculous but notwithstanding, its what happened on the last lap that mattered

Yeah that’s what happened, the car with old tyres got overtaken by the car with new tyres. That isn’t the issue under consideration.


The issue under consideration is whether car with new tyres should have been right behind and the lapped cars should have been allowed past and whether the race was restarted one lap too soon.

Most things I’ve read say the race was definitely started too soon and should have finished under the safety car according to the rules. And the FIA have somehow managed to manufacture a final lap race when they shouldn’t have.

 

[Reynard]

It's a farce that leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

The protest about overtaking under the safety car was marginal - could have fallen either way.

But I'm surprised the protest about the FIA's own conduct got thrown out, because the mistakes made by Michael Massi were, in football terms, clear and obvious.

Either you don't release the lapped cars or you do. But if you do, you must release ALL of them, and leave the safety car out for an additional lap so that those cars catch up to the back of the train. Those have been the rules for many years. And that would have meant the race finishing under the safety car.

If the race had been red-flagged, then everyone could have changed tyres. If they'd gone to a VSC, then the gap has to be maintained.

I wouldn't be surprised to see this go all the way to CAS - because it's not really about the result, it's about the whole integrity of the sport. Right now, F1 is a bloody laughing stock. They might have got the champion they wanted, but at what cost...

 

[Beebo]

I think you’re right about wanting and getting a new young champion.
It’s clearly in the interest of the sport as a whole to stop the Hamilton Mercedes winning streak.
I suspect that will be all the FIA care about once the dust settles.

 

[Drago]

He's married to an ex Williams test driver, Suzie.

I rest my case.

 

[classic33]

I rest my case.

She stopped because she felt she'd be a danger to other drivers on the track when she lost the use of one eye. And her depth of field perception with it.

 

[nickyboy]

F1 needs VAR

 

[Reynard]

VSC doesn’t secure a safe space for marshalls to be on track to sort out the incident. Having marshalled lesser races myself I’ve have wanted a safety car, as a minimum, for my own safety.

I know that. Was just pointing out all the options available.

I number many people in orange romper suits among my friends, including the head honcho at Donny.