Murdering driver jailed

[Bristolian]

I heard this on the radio today.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...jailed-life-murder-michael-mullins-manchester

About time the CPS grew a pair and charged someone with murder rather than causing death by dangerous driving and well done to the judge for giving a sentence that reflects the seriousness of the crime. If only his previous motoring offences had been dealt with properly perhaps his victim would still be alive.

My heartfelt condolences to his family and friends.

 

[Drago]

Simply changing the law to automatically prevent road killers ever driving again would be a small start.

 

[tom73]

Simply changing the law to automatically prevent road killers ever driving again would be a small start.

Why it's not automatic lord knows. Though it's little comfort in this case , the judge did use the current law and imposed a life time driving ban.

 

[Brandane]

Well done to the driver's cousin who was a passenger in the car at the time of the murder. She did the right thing and spoke out against him, providing evidence which was vital in proving that this was indeed murder. If it hadn't have been for her evidence, he would probably have been convicted of a much less serious charge like causing death by dangerous driving, and a much shorter sentence. As it is, hopefully this poor excuse of a human being will die before being released from prison, and therefore won't have the chance to drive again, ever.

 

[lenfield]

It hasn't changed anything. A car beeped it's horn and accelerated through a red light in front of me tonight.

 

[annedonnelly]

Yes, well done to the passenger, but I'd hope that if I'd been that passenger I'd have got out of the car at the first opportunity (the reports I read mentioned that he'd stopped twice & tried to pull the victim out from underneath) and called the emergency services.

I'd also hope that if I knew that a driver had a number of previous convictions as he did I wouldn't get in the car with them in the first place.

 

[lenfield]

Simply changing the law to automatically prevent road killers ever driving again would be a small start.

Crushing people's cars when they reach a certain number of points on their licence would be an even better one.

 

[Drago]

Crushing people's cars when they reach a certain number of points on their licence would be an even better one.

An automatic 28 day ban with every minor points offence would improve people's driving...

But we're preaching to the choir here.

 

[steveindenmark]

When you look at this mans driving record. It makes you wonder why you have to wait for a death before the law issues a life driving ban. He was never going to stop and a death by dangerous driving was always on the cards. It is not only Mr Mullins family I feel sorry for. The passenger in the car will carry this for the rest of their life.

 

[tom73]

When you look at this mans driving record. It makes you wonder why you have to wait for a death before the law issues a life driving ban. He was never going to stop and a death by dangerous driving was always on the cards. It is not only Mr Mullins family I feel sorry for. The passenger in the car will carry this for the rest of their life.

The motorcyclist will be carrying it too, hopefully they will be given help. All credit to him for following the blood trail , it could have been hours before anyone found him.

 

[Drago]

When you look at this mans driving record. It makes you wonder why you have to wait for a death before the law issues a life driving ban. He was never going to stop and a death by dangerous driving was always on the cards. It is not only Mr Mullins family I feel sorry for. The passenger in the car will carry this for the rest of their life.

He had a recent conviction for assaulting an emergency worker. You probably recall the good old days when the then equivalent offence meant a standard 6 months in chokey, and they actually served 6 months. If that were still the case a decent member of society, and a brother cyclist to boot, would still be alive today.

 

[Binky]

Simply changing the law to automatically prevent road killers ever driving again would be a small start.

You should know plenty of drivers who've been disqualified etc still drive.
There's loads of laws but plenty still break them.

 

[Drago]

You should know plenty of drivers who've been disqualified etc still drive.
There's loads of laws but plenty still break them.

Well indeed, but that fact that criminals will break a law is no reason not to have a law.

The answer to that issue is to enforce it ruthlessly - get caught disqual driving and go to prison. No arguments, no excuses, no mitigation, off you go. Some will be inside and out of circulation, this keeping us safer. Others might well be deterred and actually get the bus, thus keeping us safer.

Its win-win, and considering the danger they present to life and limb, the cost to the NHS and emergency services, and the cost to society as a whole, that would be a perfectly justifiable means of solving the provlem.

You yourself should know that motorists lead a charmed life as regards the legal system in the UK.

 

[Binky]

Well indeed, but that fact that criminals will break a law is no reason not to have a law.

The answer to that issue is to enforce it ruthlessly - get caught disqual driving and go to prison. No arguments, no excuses, no mitigation, off you go. Some will be inside and out of circulation, this keeping us safer. Others might well be deterred and actually get the bus, thus keeping us safer.

Its win-win, and considering the danger they present to life and limb, the cost to the NHS and emergency services, and the cost to society as a whole, that would be a perfectly justifiable means of solving the provlem.

You yourself should know that motorists lead a charmed life as regards the legal system in the UK.

No of course otherwise why have any laws but I don't think whatever is done will stop some people.
Why should I know motorists lead a charmed life?
As for DQ drivers being jailed, not happening aside from exceptional cases. There's no room!

 

[Drago]

Why should I know motorists lead a charmed life?

Because youre on this forum! It's been discussed ad nauseum.

As for DQ drivers being jailed, not happening aside from exceptional cases.

Exactly, and thats wrong. Personally I don't care if they stack them 3 deep in the cells, or fence of Gruinard island and parachute them in there. Thats a villians problem, not one for ordinary decent folk.

As an aside, and I wont go far down this route for obvious P reasons although I can touch upon it as it relates to cylcing, the financial and social cost of road death dwarfs the cost of building prisons.