Music charts

[Beebo]

What is the point?

Apparently Sam Fender has just broken the record for longest No1.

I like the song but had no idea it was No1 for so long.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn94rdz3e59o

The charts have zero relevance anymore since people no longer buy physical copies. And who even listens to the Sunday chart show these days.

Back in the days of Wet Wet Wet and Brian Adams this stuff was all over the main news reports.

 

[annedonnelly]

No idea, but vintage chart shows are usually popular, aren't they?

 

[Drago]

There is no point.

 

[richardfm]

What is the point?

Apparently Sam Fender has just broken the record for longest No1.

I like the song but had no idea it was No1 for so long.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn94rdz3e59o

The charts have zero relevance anymore since people no longer buy physical copies. And who even listens to the Sunday chart show these days.

Back in the days of Wet Wet Wet and Brian Adams this stuff was all over the main news reports.

The charts are compiled from a range of data, not just physical sales, but downloads and streams as well.
In any case, physical sales, in the form of vinyl and cassettes, have been increasing in recent years.

I'm 65 now, it's more than 50 years since I listened to the chart show. Does it still exist?

 

[Drago]

Since time immemorial the charts have been manipulated and hyped, making it totally unrepresentative of that which the public are listening to. Thus theyre pointless.

 

[Toshiba Boy]

Since time immemorial the charts have been manipulated and hyped, making it totally unrepresentative of that which the public are listening to. Thus theyre pointless.

Nooooo! Drags, you mean Ernie wasn't really the best selling single in December 1971?

Ah sod it, what am I going to download now?

 

[wafter]

The point is to sell homogenous manufactured crap to people with no taste.

 

[MontyVeda]

People who listen to primarily 'chart' music enjoy popular culture more than music.
If they enjoyed the music then it wouldn't matter how many other people bought it.

 

[Sharky]

Takes me back, used to try and record the top 20, on a basic cassette tape recorder, with microphone. Trying to pause between the songs to cut out the talking.

 

[Dave7]

What is the point?

Apparently Sam Fender has just broken the record for longest No1.

I like the song but had no idea it was No1 for so long.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn94rdz3e59o

The charts have zero relevance anymore since people no longer buy physical copies. And who even listens to the Sunday chart show these days.

Back in the days of Wet Wet Wet and Brian Adams this stuff was all over the main news reports.

Yes, back in the 60s we used to get the weekly NME and scour the charts.

 

[wafter]

People who listen to primarily 'chart' music enjoy popular culture more than music.
If they enjoyed the music then it wouldn't matter how many other people bought it.

I think it's also a case of being insufficiently interested to go out and actually find what you like, subservient enough to unthinkingly consume what you're fed and sufficiently devoid of critical thinking or moral indignation to question the motives behind what you're listening to.

I hate pop music and manufactured mainstream "culture" in general as it all seems (is) so disingenuous, manipulative and ultimately banal.

It always makes me sad to hear (at least modern) pop music played at funerals; that something so cynically manufactured and insincere has been chosen to mark something so significant; and that people choose "music" so bland and meaningless to associate with the most poignant and meaningful moments of their lives.

 

[Webbo2]

I think it's also a case of being insufficiently interested to go out and actually find what you like, subservient enough to unthinkingly consume what you're fed and sufficiently devoid of critical thinking or moral indignation to question the motives behind what you're listening to.

I hate pop music and manufactured mainstream "culture" in general as it all seems (is) so disingenuous, insincere, manipulative and ultimately banal.

I think if you listened to Sam Fender you might find his music is not manufactured mainstream culture. It’s often about disintegrating British society.

 

[wafter]

I think if you listened to Sam Fender you might find his music is not manufactured mainstream culture. It’s often about disintegrating British society.

I'm not suggesting that everything in the charts is crap as stuff from decent artists does find its way in there (after all, if you have something good why not capitalise on it - everyone has to make a living).

My real issue is with the stuff that's carefully created with the specific, singular goal of generating maximum revenue; much of it often aimed at the young and unsuspecting... the constant churn of "boy bands", "girl bands" and myriad other crap that's designed to exploit the emotional vulnerabilities of its target audience in order to separate them from their cash..

 

[SpokeyDokey]

People who listen to primarily 'chart' music enjoy popular culture more than music.
If they enjoyed the music then it wouldn't matter how many other people bought it.

I think it's also a case of being insufficiently interested to go out and actually find what you like, subservient enough to unthinkingly consume what you're fed and sufficiently devoid of critical thinking or moral indignation to question the motives behind what you're listening to.

I hate pop music and manufactured mainstream "culture" in general as it all seems (is) so disingenuous, manipulative and ultimately banal.

It always makes me sad to hear (at least modern) pop music played at funerals; that something so cynically manufactured and insincere has been chosen to mark something so significant; and that people choose "music" so bland and meaningless to associate with the most poignant and meaningful moments of their lives.

Some very sweeping statements there, gentlemen.

We (Mrs SD & I) listen to lots of contemporary pop/pop-dance/edm, etc, and there are a huge number of artists producing great sounds coupled to some thoughtful & clever lyrics.

For sure, there are some awful tracks, but that is only my opinion, others may love them, but that is no reason to castigate them.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

My real issue is with the stuff that's carefully created with the specific, singular goal of generating maximum revenue; much of it often aimed at the young and unsuspecting... the constant churn of "boy bands", "girl bands" and myriad other crap that's designed to exploit the emotional vulnerabilities of its target audience in order to separate them from their cash..

But that has been happening at least since the 50's, ie. targeted audience - the music business is far from philanthropic, too.

At the 'amateur' level it is probably not about money but a pro band/singer is not just an artist but a commercial entity, too.