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[Jonathan M]

Karlos, that is pretty awful - I will keep an eye out for the bike if you post some details.

Hope you get a replacement soon - I feel your pain after having two bikes stolen in quick sucession of each other.

Were they nicked from the same place i.e. outside the same offices? Car theives who take from owners house will often return in 3 to 6 months time knowing that a replacement will have been sourced. Could you be subject to a serial thief who has struck lucky outside your office before and chanced his hand again?

 

[tonka]

Bad luck Karlos. Brick lane is a good bet but take a couple of mates with you as the scumbags are never on there own.

 

[Lazy-Commuter]

Dreadful news, Karlos.

And everytime you cry or sulk, then save up, replace things and it happens again. You must wonder if these thieving scum realise how painful their actions are to honest folk.

Don't pass on the pain with your bolt croppers.

Neutering is too good for them.

.. maybe not pass on the pain to someone else by taking their pride and joy, but bolt croppers could be useful in conjunction with the last line in 2Loose's post.

 

[Glow worm]

Sorry to hear that Karlos, thats really tough. Best of luck catching the scrotes.

I know I’d be gutted if it happened to me, and strangely far more so than if my car was nicked.
I had to use my car for the first time in ages earlier and couldn’t find the keys anywhere. Turned out they were in the ignition, (car parked on street) where they’ve been sat since the car last moved about 4 weeks ago!
I’m a lot more careful with the bike though, but if the sods want it badly enough, I guess they’ll grab it.

 

[karlos_the_jackal]

Cheers guys, jonny wasnt referring to previous one being stolen, i broke it, well it was a decathlon and falling apart, bottom bracket. But thats going into the LBS on thursday now probably.

Also only realised this morning that the bike aswell as on a busy road was actually right next to a taxi rank!

Requested a pic off the bloke i bought it from and will be checking out ebay/gumtree and brick lane. It's amazing how many people have said brick lane.

I'm thinking of just redesigning the bike lock, why does it necessarily have to be in a moveable chain or d lock formation. Was thinking that why cant it be like this type of thing

http://dvice.com/archives/2008/06/folding-handleb.php But the bike manafacturers don't really have that much of an incentive in bike security. I think it could be a campaign to get them more interested.

or i was thinking something like a handcuff style but 2 tube interactions as the inbetween instead of chain, one solid and the other around it and two different locking points either handcuff end and with a third locking point inbetween that controls the distance between the two handcuff parts, therefore you start to prevent the amount of easy access that say a bolt cutter or angle grinder has, keeping the bike as tight to the stationary object as possible. I wont do dragons den just yet though!

 

[karlos_the_jackal]

Glow worm, any houses up for sale in your street??? i'll live there.

And now shall i tell all what i do for a living.

Risk Management and Insurance and also used to be a loss adjuster. And no i didnt have it insured. Am inbetween houses at the moment so no house contents policy.

 

[threebikesmcginty]

Drat and double drat!!.....

 

[ttcycle]

Were they nicked from the same place i.e. outside the same offices? Car theives who take from owners house will often return in 3 to 6 months time knowing that a replacement will have been sourced. Could you be subject to a serial thief who has struck lucky outside your office before and chanced his hand again?

No they were in completely different ends of London - unfortunately they were just after a high value carbon fibre bike- there's a whole way bike thieves work in London- ie the 'professionals', a colleague of mine had several stolen and so he got to know the thieves so they would leave his future bikes alone- a 'fence' steals a bike, it's taken in and modified, transferred to another part of London and advertised on gumtree/ebay for a steal - if this is not an option it's taken to brick lane. Low level thieves also take bikes direct to brick lane.

 

[karlos_the_jackal]

ttcycle, exactly as you said, i've been looking over gumtree today. Its amazing how many quite high end bikes are there.

I think there is definitely the market, especially with bike costs going up, to produce a good £75-£100 lock

 

[garrilla]

Its diminishing returns on locks though. After a certain price there's not much more security you can get out of certain types of locks. All you can really do is add more than one lock as this decreases the 'opportunity' time.

 

[jonny jeez]

or i was thinking something like a handcuff style but 2 tube interactions as the inbetween instead of chain, one solid and the other around it and two different locking points either handcuff end and with a third locking point inbetween that controls the distance between the two handcuff parts, therefore you start to prevent the amount of easy access that say a bolt cutter or angle grinder has, keeping the bike as tight to the stationary object as possible. I wont do dragons den just yet though!

I've seen that on a bike outside a house in Camberwell (on the kennington road).

I just assumed the guy was a copper and was using his cuffs to do two jobs...one to secure it and one to advertise that he was a copper (to potential thieves)

But, it could have been a new design lock, I didn't look for long as I was on the move.

Personally I think a solution is 1-3 locks, all of which take time to break and arouse suspicion, what genuine owner would loose the keys to three locks and need to cut them all.

Are you moving "off the farm" then?, shame v.nice there what with that haunted manor house on the moat and Scadbury on your doorstep

 

[karlos_the_jackal]

Are you moving "off the farm" then?, shame v.nice there what with that haunted manor house on the moat and Scadbury on your doorstep[/QUOTE]


What moat? i really havent explored the area, up until last sunday when did a 20 mile circuit of orpington/pettswood and up to m25.

yes, might move into london.(far enough away for a decent commute so west west london and then might move to a fixie and get a road bike in the summer.

 

[garrilla]

Those 'street-cuffs' are great and light and have been around for a about 5 years, but the lynch-pin between the cuffs can be wizzed with a portable angle grinder in about 30 seconds. So it depdns on how long you intend to the leave the bike for.

 

[garrilla]

I've seen that on a bike outside a house in Camberwell (on the kennington road).

I just assumed the guy was a copper and was using his cuffs to do two jobs...one to secure it and one to advertise that he was a copper (to potential thieves)

But, it could have been a new design lock, I didn't look for long as I was on the move.

Personally I think a solution is 1-3 locks, all of which take time to break and arouse suspicion, what genuine owner would loose the keys to three locks and need to cut them all.

Are you moving "off the farm" then?, shame v.nice there what with that haunted manor house on the moat and Scadbury on your doorstep

the type of person that would put all 3 keys on the same keyring and lose the whole bunch.

 

[Grendel]

It amazes me to see that people will spend hundreds on a bike and secure it with a pound shop lock, which has all the strength of dental floss.