Need a touring bike, but don't know which to buy

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vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
The OP is coming from a MTB, so might be happier with what the Europeans call a trekking bike:

http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/rose-black-creek-2-trekking-men-610441/aid:610485

The bars have Ergon grips and mini bar ends and the stem has a Speedlifter - quick release adjustment for bar height.

I can't think of any set-up likely to be more comfortable over a long period.

The bike is very similar to the Decathlon bike but is around £400 more expensive.

I had a less sophisticated Decathlon tourer/hybrid and it did the job well. The suspension forks are, perhaps, superfluous and add weight to the bike. I rode with them permanently locked out.
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
I'd be road touring, so the mtb option isn't relevant for me. With regard to gears, I've met you oldfatfool - and as you are a skinny young thing I think you probably need less help up the hills than I do. (I can't comment on the last third of your name though :smile: .)

It's useful to have lower gearing than that on a road bike and this can be achieved by swapping out the granny ring for somethin smaller. Some tourers have a 30 tooth granny ring putting on a 26 tooth one will lower the gearing without a need to make any major adjustments. Sometimes at the end of a long day a smaller granny ring is a welcome feature when a normally unchallenging hill becomes a mountain.
 
With a touring bike, you want comfort as your top priority. That comfort means you have to get something the right size, with a good way of carrying your luggage out of yor way (heelstrike) without being so far abaft that it affects the line. Comfort means getting a position - or positions - which you can maintain all day. I used to favour a randonneur bar, but there isn't a decent one on the market any more. I tend to ride almost exclusively on the hoods these days, so I'm considering switching to bullhorns like my commuter. Everyone is different. I like a lower, more stretched, posture. It works for me, but a lot of people prefer something more upright.

Comfort covers being able to shift a load up a hill in the most effective way. So choosing gears is important. I know that I like a range of 25-100". Anything lower gets wobbly for me, though I know people who climb quite steadily at a glacial pace.

Although you want a strong and reasonably stiff frame to carry your luggage, it needs to be pliant enough for comfort. I have a penchant for steel, and Reynolds 531 in particular. There's a good choice of materials these days, and I'd say a number of different alloys will give you similar characteristics, depending on nuance. Steel is easier to repair if you come to grief far from home as it can be welded (mostly), and brazing is a fairly common skill worldwide.

The bottom line is to test things out. There's not much point in getting a custom build as a relatively new tourer, as you won't know just what suits you. As a starting point, it's hard to go wrong with a Ridgeback or something like a Dawes Galaxy.

Good luck in your search, and hope you enjoy whatever you end up riding.
 

Star Strider

Active Member
Mountain bike frames are usually smaller than road bike frames to avoid you bashing your rocks while you are bashing your bike on the rocks.

An old style way of getting a rough and ready frame size was to take ten inches off your inside leg measurement.

Have a look at if you want a decent tourer for under £1000, you can spend as little as £500 on something that will do the job competently

Raleigh Royale, Gran Tour and Sojourn cover a price range from about £500 - £1000
Edinburgh Bike Co-operative do a range of tourers with your budget
Decathlon have a tourer/hybrid called the Riverside at £600 and has a surprisingly high specification including hub dynamo lighting and hydraulic rim brakes
MTB's are not smaller.

This is a misconception, while standover may be greater the virtual top tube height and all importantly the reach will be about the same with some variations depending on the intended use of the MTB.

It's actualy hard to convert MTB's and some flat bar hybrids to drop bars because the virtual top tube tends to be longer than a drop bar bike which can leave you having to use a tiny stem which gives terrible steering.

Having said all that I would go for the Decathlon flat bar with the maguras and the dyno hub, it's hell of a of lot of bike for the money.
 
Location
London
You couldnt build one for that much, not even close, not even if you tarted up a more basic bike.
That's definitely incredible value, I agree - those brakes alone would cost a fair bit. Excellent brakes - I have some on a fast city bike and have never had to touch them for almost ten years apart from popping in new brake blocks. I don't think I'd like to head off on a tour with hydraulics though. And it's a real pity that they've gone for a suspension fork. Still, as I said, amazing value.
 

BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
My main commuting bike is a Ridgeback Panorama, a nice steel framed bike with lots of low gears for the hills but some big gears for the downhills.
 
Panorama is a really well-specced bike. If I were not a bit more picky*, one of those would suit me really well.


* I'm after hub gears & disc brakes, cause that's what suits me and my riding.
 

Nigeyy

Legendary Member
This thread really shows what you've probably already worked out: everyone has an opinion, and what works for one in terms of equipment, setup or a specific tour, doesn't necessarily work for another..... I like Clarions quote of:

"The bottom line is to test things out. There's not much point in getting a custom build as a relatively new tourer, as you won't know just what suits you. As a starting point, it's hard to go wrong with a Ridgeback or something like a Dawes Galaxy.

Good luck in your search, and hope you enjoy whatever you end up riding."

I'm also going to add: don't get paralyzed by analysis by everyone's point of view on this thread. Take what you think is important to you, and as as Clarion said, test things out before you buy. It will be interesting to read what you decide!
 
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