Neighbourhood watch types

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thelawnet

Well-Known Member
They aren't quite right, are they?

They turn up at police meetings, and they tell the police that the number one most serious issue is cyclists (this happened here, about three months ago) cycling on the pavement. This was happening, btw, because the advertised offroad route/towpath had been closed, somewhat ironically, to build a Greenpeace HQ.

So the police sent out an edict 'please don't cycle on this pavement'.

Three days later a cyclist is hit by a BMW on the road adjacent to said pavement, and seriously injured.

The police take down the warning from their website.

Next police meeting, they are very concerned that people appear to be cycling in the town between 10am and 4pm, and they thought that this had been banned. Apparently not, the traffic order not in place.

Anyway, that was main subject of discussion. Obviously the spate of burglaries, sexual assaults, deaths on the roads, etc., are not as important as cyclists apparently not following the rules.

Aside from this, a year or so ago, they set up a NHW in my road.

They send me emails about things to worry about. E.g., we are warned about a scam 0906 number that charged at £15 instantly, to collect a parcel. This is an obvious hoax, so I google it, and send email advising that this is the case.

A couple of weeks later they send it again. I tell them again.

A few weeks later, they send me one about a fake baby being left in a car, so people will stop and get murdered or something, and another about gangs throwing eggs mixed with water at the windscreen, which makes the vision blocked '92.5%'

I send another email saying 'you might want to check before forwarding this stuff, it's debunked on numerous hoax websites'.

This evening I get one, passed one 'urgently' warning about people asking for a delivery charge for parcel, and subsequently running up £4k bills on the card. Again, a scam, copied from Australia, word-for-word, even down to the supposed name of the driver, but the email insists that this happened PERSONALLY to a friend of the 'committee member'.

Again, I inform them it's a scam.

Otherwise we just tend to get emails along the line of 'number 12 are doing work and have damaged the pavement with their heavy lorry' and similar sort of passive-aggressive emails-to-all.

A particular classic advised that there were 'vagrants' on the Common, and that they should be "talked to" and "encouraged" (scare quotes in original) , to move on.

Perhaps I should just be grateful that my neighbours are curtain-twitchers, rather than drug dealers and joyriders.
 
[QUOTE 2136759, member: 9609"]They're fantastic - I went to one of ours and this old dear reported "I keep seeing this man out walking without a dog - what do you think he might be up to?"[/quote]
Aye man, you often make me laugh ---- but ............ that's the best yet. I hurt. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :ohmy:
 
....... Perhaps I should just be grateful that my neighbours are curtain-twitchers, rather than drug dealers and joyriders.
Or perhaps fearful, given their inordinate interest in the elections for police commissioners.

Damn - there is isn't a "smiley" for "boots, for the quaking in", nor for "fan, as in to aim for".
 
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thelawnet

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Actually when we moved into our house, which is rented, they sent a gardener round to tidy it up.

My wife and my mother-in-law pruned it a bit more to make it a bit more open.

Anyway, the garden is surrounded by six-foot fences, so not really overlooked except perhaps from the upstairs windows of our neighbour's house

The estate agent told us that our neighbour had called her and said 'The garden looked very nice [don't forget the six-foot fence] after the gardeners went round, but then they were BROWN people in the garden, cutting bits off it' (well she may not have said 'brown', but she did report that we had done extra gardening). The same people complained when we burned some garden rubbish, once, saying that 'we pay a lot of money to have our garden rubbish taken away' (they don't, the council charges £30/year).
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
our immediate neighbours are young people in a street which is middle-aged and then some. There's the most wonderful disjunction between them and the rest of the street. They have a sofa in the front garden, and sit on it, smoking hellacious weed. People ask me how I can stand it. I remind them that the young woman practices fire-dancing while wearing a pink feather bikini, and, in a reasonable world, this makes up for a multitude of sins.

But we don't have a neighbourhood watch. We have a police service which is wonderful.
 
We had a Councillor who had a thing about cyclists on Pavements, so we went to a meeting with a dossier of cars (including hers) parked on pavements in the same area. Then at the end of her rant, they agreed to put a couple of extra Police out to speak to the offending cyclists. We then presented the dossier and asked if the Police would clamp down on these antisocial and dangerous misuses of the pavement at the same time.

They agreed and our Councillor was livid... so you can use it to your advantage
 

Drago

Legendary Member
I don't quite see how cyclists on the path fall into the Neighbourhood Watch sphere of interest, unless the cyclists are burgling houses. Sounds like the police failed to keep control of the agenda in that particular meeting.

I owned my own beat for nearly 8 years so have been to dozens of such meetings. Some NW co-ordinaries were genuine, but most were busybodies. Even among NW watch members apathy is rampant - if a house is burgled they'll all be at the meetings, all be keeping an eye out etc... For a few weeks or month until their interest wanes. They'd then do nothing until a house is burgled, then the cycle was repeated.

In 4 out of 5 schemes they're just a waste of time.
 
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thelawnet

Well-Known Member
I think they call it a community police panel meeting or something like that.

Still the same *!@"s though
 

BrumJim

Forum Stalwart (won't take the hint and leave...)
i support our local neighbourhood person by doing the photocopying he needs . it all depends on the person doing it surely

NHW in our street is my next-door neighbour. He has his head screwed on, and gets similary frustrated by the curtain-twitching petty-minded types.

His favourite bugbear is the "There are no police around. I got my car mirror smashed the other night." Response "Did you tell the Police?". Answer "No. There's no point, they don't do anything."

Well, if they don't know there is a problem, then of course they won't do anything. They won't do anything for a minor isolated incident of minor vandalism either. But if it starts to get regular, they will. So if you don't report it to the Police, persuade others not to either, and therefore the Police think that there is no crime on your street, its your own fault that there are no Police around.
:rolleyes:
 
Ah, welcome to the new world of neighbourhood policing. No longer do we set the policing priorities (in the past these have mainly been burglary/robbery/domestic violence), now the community have these meetings and tell us to focus on the hard hitting issues such as cycling on the pavement instead.
 

Cubist

Still wavin'
Location
Ovver 'thill
I think they call it a community police panel meeting or something like that.

Still the same *!@"s though
PACT

Police and Community Together.

Not quite the same thing as NHW, but you do tend to see the same faces with the same agenda at every meeting. I chair them, and have a very unprofessional opinion of some/many of the "sticky-beak" types, so I won't go into too much detail. Suffice it to say, we can separate the wheat from the chaff, and by acts of diplomacy, smoke, and mirrors, we can ensure the true priorities based on calls for service and local knowledge are represented, and at the same time the speeding and dogturd brigade are pacified.

NHW is a mixed bag. Tenants Association meetings are always entertaining, especially in an area where, genuinely, nothing happens. They are often forced to make stuff up in order to have something to be indignant about. I once had a run in with one resident who didn't like the skate park near her house. The area is desperately middle class, with zero deprivation, zero crime, a generally wealthy population, and a bunch of really nice middle class skaterbois, (we're talking 11-14 year olds). The resident kept on making reports of all sorts of shenannigans,underage sex, drug-taking, alcohol use. The local warden kept checking the park for litter, and reported a few sweet wrappers and monster energy cans, but no roaches, no needles, no bottles or dealer bags, and surprisingly few cigarette ends. There was a bit of graffiti, which would appear sporadically. In the end I persuaded the ASB unit to put up a covert camera as I wanted to see just what was going on to make this woman so furious at every meeting. On the second night it caught her setting fire to a waste bin and spraying the word "F*CK" on the end of the half pipe.

In interview she admitted she was considering selling her house, and thought the park was affecting the sale value.
 
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