Neither a lender nor a borrower be....

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Globalti

Legendary Member
I can't speak for the younger contributors to this forum but I was brought up with a stong ethic that you don't borrow money apart from what you need to buy your house. Aged about 8, I emptied my piggy bank onto the counter at the local hardware store to buy an Airfix kit; I was 3d short but the shopkeeper told me to bring it later as she knew me, so I went and asked my Mum to advance it to me out of my 2/6 a week pocket money. My Mum gave me a bollocking I have never forgotten for borrowing the 3d. Many years later rmy son borrowed a cherished Scalextric car from a neighbour, crashed it and snapped off the spoiler, which caused much grief.

As for lending, I should know better. Three times I've lent cash and not got it back. As a teenager I lent the family Vango tent to a friend who left it in the boot of his car with a can of petrol; he had painted the inside of the boot with bitumen underseal so when the petrol leaked out the tent laid in a pool of liquid tar and when we got it back the fly had a nice big inkblot pattern going right across it. Did he offer to replace it? Nope. On a couple of other occasions I've lent things and got them back with the words: "Oh it got a bit scratched.... sorry!" Never enough to make a fuss but it all contributes to a gradual deterioration in the condition of something you cherish,

Last week my neighbour, a novice cyclist, took out the BB of his BTwin bike and sent off to Amazon (should have just gone to a shop) for a better replacement. When he mentioned his frustration at not being able to ride I offered him the use of my beloved Roubaix, which is a little too small for him but anyway he accepted happily. Can you see where this is going? Off we went for an early Saturday leg-loosener. Coming down a fast hill on a narrow lane I thought to myself: "There'll be people coming up here on their way to the shops..." so I slowed right down and hugged the hedge. Seconds later, round the corner came a car. I went past fine but behind me I heard a lound noise. Looked back and there was my neighbour, flat on his back. He had been too close behind me and had seen the car, braked too hard, locked up and gone off the tarmac. The damage? Scratched helmet and a headache, skinned shoulder, bruised ribs, thigh and wrist. Thank God he wasn't hurt badly because he has a young family. And the bike? The front wheel, a Mavic Ksyrium SL, was slightly kinked and the Charge Knife saddle gashed open. He rode home and got a roasting from his wife but now all is forgiven.

I managed to true the Ksyrium with some very judicious and small adjustments to the spoke tensions and I filled the gash on the saddle with glue then taped it over with vinyl. As I told my neighbour: "There's nothing on a bike that can't be repaired!" but it all contributes to a gradual deterioration in the condition of the bike as it ages. It won't stop me lending things as I'll never learn the lesson.
 
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summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
It's one of the reasons I don't like to borrow things, especially bikes, in case I'd cause some damage to them, especially if they are pristine!
 

Levo-Lon

Guru
Same here @Globalti i hate owing anyone.
I bought a new Dyson yesterday...i thought ill use my barclaycard...it was out of date by months..grr so i used my debit card..its paid for lol..and a happy wife, priceless

I have a large van and lots of expensive tools ..breakers plate compactors petrol saws and lots of small power tools...ive learnt to say sorry but no you cant borrow it..
people take the pi55..
I was a long time leaning this..i dont miss those old friends mind..
 

theclaud

Openly Marxist
Location
Swansea
I lend my brother money occasionally when he needs it, and I have borrowed in order to do so. I have better access to credit than he does, at lower interest rates. He pays me back in instalments.

I borrowed a bike from someone who never used it and never had any intention of using it. I did run it into the ground, actually, but it was my gateway back into cycling as an adult. I have a 'pay it forward' sort of attitude to that one.

@mistral OTP lent his nice Condor bicycle to a friend of mine so that she could do a FNRttC. Her cycling has gone from strength to strength and she is currently in fabulous form as a triathlete. She runs Try-a-Tri events for women (some of whom do them on borrowed bikes), and they are so popular she is thinking of giving up the day job.
 

DCLane

Found in the Yorkshire hills ...
I don't like to borrow items but lend things that aren't 'vital'.

At the moment I've a borrowed turbo trainer (2nd time from the same clubmate) for recovery from the rib injuries. It'll be back this/next week but I'm looking after it properly and know I don't want to buy one since I've rollers.
 
Last year my brother in law gave me 'Fargo' first season for my birthday. Quite nice as I like the film. He likes the film too so borrowed it when I'd finished watching it.
This years birthday he bought me season 2. Just happened to mention other day he wouldn't mind borrowing it when I've finished with it. Might think about it once he hands season 1 back...
 

Mrs M

Guru
Location
Aberdeenshire
I've lent a tenner here and there that I've never got back :sad:
Happy to lend my neighbours garden equipment, etc. and always got them back in the condition they were given.
But, I would never lend anybody one of my bikes :thumbsdown:
Nobody loves them like I do :bicycle: :wub:
 

MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
Last year my brother in law gave me 'Fargo' first season for my birthday. Quite nice as I like the film. He likes the film too so borrowed it when I'd finished watching it.
This years birthday he bought me season 2. Just happened to mention other day he wouldn't mind borrowing it when I've finished with it. Might think about it once he hands season 1 back...
LOL... that reminds me of the friend who bought me Zappa's Waka Jawaka CD for my birthday one year... then a couple of years later he asked if he could borrow it. After a few weeks i asked if i could have it back. "No." he replied. "I bought it." he added. What a tosser he turned out to be.
 

Brandane

Legendary Member
I bought a new Dyson yesterday....its paid for lol..and a happy wife, priceless
She must be thinking all her Christmas's have come at once! :okay:
As for lending bikes, I once had a mate visiting who expressed an interest in going for a bike ride. With 3 bikes in the house it would have been rude not to offer, so off we went with me on my Secteur and him on my pristine MTB.. I was cringeing every time he changed gear as I could hear the chain trying to grind the teeth off the cassette. Even after I suggested that it might be a good idea to ease off the power slightly when changing gear, it made no difference. I won't be doing that again!
 

Fnaar

Smutmaster General
Location
Thumberland
It gets really confusing with those who use 'lend' to mean 'borrow', as in "Can I lend your hedge trimmer?"
Yes, who would you like to lend it to?
:okay:
 

Goofball

Active Member
Location
Larne
I have lost track of the dvd's, video's and other stuff I have lent and never got back. :angry:

Ends up it's only when I need to use or want to watch them, that I remember about them.
Then I can't remember who got them... :scratch:

Mate gave me his old dvd player, so I could have a go at fixing it.
I opened it and found my dvd lose inside it, that was the problem.

I didn't even remember lending it.. :tongue:
 

ozboz

Guru
Location
Richmond ,Surrey
Im with @metalon , ive got a very comprehensive tool kit , lend something out , it comes back knackered , and no offer of replacement or money ,
 
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