Network Rail Cut My Bike Lock

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Twilkes

Guru
The bike racks at Glasgow Central station got moved today, and although there were signs at either end, who's going to see those in a rush in the morning when you're scanning for an empty slot? Not about 20 people, judging by the pile of bikes downstairs.

The signs just said 'these bike racks will be moved, so make sure your bike is removed before the 10th'.

Any case for getting them to reimburse for a lock? Or should I just accept that as a trade for getting a quick tour of the fabled basements?
 
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Twilkes

Twilkes

Guru
Yup, currently sucking it. When they did a similar thing in Edinburgh they taped notices on each individual stand and bike that was there so it was impossible to miss. Hey ho hum ha.
 

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
So they cut the locks, removed the bikes, moved the bike racks, and then just put the bikes back there with no locks? Or did they put them somewhere secure and have a sign saying "If you would like your bike, go to the office" at the racks?
 

cosmicbike

Perhaps This One.....
Moderator
Location
Egham
So they cut the locks, removed the bikes, moved the bike racks, and then just put the bikes back there with no locks? Or did they put them somewhere secure and have a sign saying "If you would like your bike, go to the office" at the racks?
As OP stated, bikes were moved to the basement.....

I'd suck it up, and be grateful that your bike was returned. Were the basements worth a look? I know many forgotten places like that are often very interesting...
 

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
As OP stated, bikes were moved to the basement.....

I'd suck it up, and be grateful that your bike was returned. Were the basements worth a look? I know many forgotten places like that are often very interesting...
Oh, missed that.

At college I lock my bike on racks inside the staff bike cages (even though I am not staff but I managed to get a key). At work I lock my bike to the railings outside the staff cabin, where someone passes it every 30 mins at least and the CCTV from the warehouse is in full view of it.
In Chester they have bike boxes in a fan shape. I have never used one of these and not sure how you would get a key, but they do look secure.

I dont take my good bike to the station or shops, if I am going. I always take my MTB which isnt worth a penny (well I could probably get a few quid for it).
 
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Twilkes

Twilkes

Guru
They were disappointingly well-lit and damp free. Unlike the Clyde Pedestrian Tunnel, which used to have some of the most disturbing graffiti I've witnessed, complemented with the invisible traffic rumblings and 1950s Eastern Bloc claustrophobic design. It had been white-washed when I went back with my camera though.

Some tunnels in the west end of Glasgow are actually fairly hospitable: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7238/7392872566_904384b64c_b.jpg
 

SWSteve

Guru
Location
Bristol...ish
Were the basements worth a look? I know many forgotten places like that are often very interesting...

Once when at Bristol Temple Meads I was sent through the old tunnels out to a lower exit, if I wasn't extremely hungover and confused as to why I was having to walk through them I would have appreciated it
 

Booyaa

Veteran
Bit of a pisser, where have they been moved to?
 

Pikey

Waiting for the turbo to kick in...
Location
Wiltshire
That is an amazing site, thanks for that link.

Wait until you have been on it so long that you think it would be a good idea to start going to these places ur self.

That's a whole new flavour of amazing. There is so much old hidden stuff to explore. Google the corsham underground for one.

sadly in a past life before I became mature/professional/had to reliably pay the mortgage and being chased by the army / security guards felt like a bad day out.
 

Cuchilo

Prize winning member X2
Location
London
Wait until you have been on it so long that you think it would be a good idea to start going to these places ur self.

That's a whole new flavour of amazing. There is so much old hidden stuff to explore. Google the corsham underground for one.

sadly in a past life before I became mature/professional/had to reliably pay the mortgage and being chased by the army / security guards felt like a bad day out.

I tried Hanworth park house once but the guard dog was on to me right away !


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Grendel

Veteran
The bike racks at Glasgow Central station got moved today, and although there were signs at either end, who's going to see those in a rush in the morning when you're scanning for an empty slot? Not about 20 people, judging by the pile of bikes downstairs.

The signs just said 'these bike racks will be moved, so make sure your bike is removed before the 10th'.

Any case for getting them to reimburse for a lock? Or should I just accept that as a trade for getting a quick tour of the fabled basements?

Firstly, make a few discreet enquiries about who moved the bikes and when. Act dumb, and don't tip your hand too soon.
In Englandwales a bike which is causing an obstruction may be removed under Railway Byelaw Number 14 by an authorised person.
In Scotland your bike may only be moved under the supervision of a member of the British Transport Police.
If you can get Network Rail to reveal that it was moved by station staff alone, you can then cite the relevant bye-law and perhaps get the cost back. A small claims court is a cheap and suitable method to do so.

Incidentally at Edinburgh Waverley bikes chained up outside the racks are always fitted with a notice first, before any attempt to remove them is made.

I myself had to raise the above with Scotrail after I discovered some bloke with a pair of bolt cutters hanging around my bike, threatening to remove it. I put in a complaint, an apology was received and the miscreant was "re-briefed". Furthermore as my complaint was not dealt with in the time stated in their own complaints procedure, I received a £5 off travel voucher.

Railway Byelaw 14:

No person in charge of any motor vehicle, bicycle or other conveyance shall park it on any part of the railway where charges are made for parking by an Operator or an authorised person without paying the appropriate charge at the appropriate time in accordance with instructions given by an Operator or an authorised person at that place.
(4) In England and Wales
The owner of any motor vehicle, bicycle or other conveyance used, left or placed in breach of Byelaw 14(1) to 14(3) may be liable to pay a penalty as displayed in that area.
(ii) Without prejudice to Byelaw 14(4)(i), any motor vehicle, bicycle or other conveyance used, left or placed in breach of Byelaw 14(1) to 14(3) may be clamped, removed, and stored, by or under the direction of an Operator or authorised person.
(iii) The owner of the motor vehicle, bicycle or other conveyance shall be liable to an Operator or an authorised person for the costs incurred in clamping, removing and storing it provided that there is in that area a notice advising that any vehicle parked contrary to these Byelaws may be clamped, removed and stored by an Operator or an authorised person and that (i)
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the costs incurred by an Operator or an authorised person for this may be recovered from the vehicle’s owner.
(iv) The power of clamping and removal provided in Byelaw 14(4)(ii) above shall not be exercisable in any area where passenger parking is permitted unless there is on display in that area a notice advising that any vehicle parked contrary to these Byelaws may be clamped and/or removed by an Operator or an authorised person.

(5) In Scotland
Any motor vehicle, bicycle or other conveyance used, left or placed in breach of this Byelaw in Scotland may be removed by or under the direction of a constable
 
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