New Bike - TREK design fault ?

Discussion in 'CycleChat Cafe' started by ianr, 15 May 2008.

  1. ianr

    ianr New Member

    My missus has kindly stumped up £1000 for a new road bike for my b'day (I've already had a MTB for the past x amount of years but have recently got into duathlons etc. where a roadie would come in handy). I have been looking at the 2008 TREK 1.9 triple (not bad componentry for under a grand) but need advice. Basically, I popped into an Evans shop to give it a spin and it was fitted with toe-clips (which I have always used). When pedalling and turning at the same time I found there was no clearance between the front wheel and the toeclip and in fact they banged into each other and I nearly came off! I took a different TREK out (1.7 I think) and the same thing happened. The shop said toe-clips are dangerous and they don't recommend them plus don't pedal while turning round corners and to keep your feet in the low/high rest position!!! I've looked at various SPD alternatives but again the clearance between foot and front wheel appears to be zero. Apologies for being stupid but is it just me, or has anyone else had this problem ? Is it a design fault or what ? Or just bad advice in shop ? I've looked at a few other bikes and they don't appear to have this problem. And what's the best shoes to buy for this bike ? Should I get a diff. bike ???
    Any advice greatly appreciated (being a newb to the road scene).
  2. Night Train

    Night Train Maker of Things

    Greater Manchester
    Hiya, welcome to the forum.

    This isn't something I'd even thought about checking so I have just been to have a look at my bike, a Marin Hawkhill MTB. I have toe clips fitted still and there is a good 2.5" between the toe and the front tyre at their closest point.
  3. OP

    ianr New Member

    Thnx for welcome.
    Cool furniture!
    Beginning to think it may be me as I'm sure TREK would have tested this sort of thing ?
  4. Noodley

    Noodley Guest

  5. Yorkshireman

    Yorkshireman New Member

  6. gavintc

    gavintc Guru

    Haha - Are Evans taking over from Halfords for delivering ridiculous cycling advice. Toe clips are not for all. Personally I prefer clipless. But, I would hesitate to call them dangerous.
  7. k-dog

    k-dog New Member

    The toe clips have nothing to do with the toe overlap anyway - well maybe a few mm but nothing significant. It's purely a combination of the size of your feet and the gemoetry of the frame. Much more common with small frames obviously.

    It's not really an issue on a geared frame - can be a pain on a fixed bike as you can't always get your foot out of the way for slow manoevering.
  8. walker

    walker New Member

    Bromley, Kent
  9. fossyant

    fossyant Ride It Like You Stole It!

    South Manchester
    My Ribble is very tight and does suffer toe overlap - not a big issue though - only when you are moving at slow speed and don't move your foot.
  10. terry huckle

    terry huckle New Member

    I have that problem on my Dawes Galaxy, but not on any of the others.
  11. But Terry isn't that because you have size 18 feet?

    How you doing? Just started reading that Josie Dew book you lent me last summer!!!! Very good :eek:

    Take care

  12. terry huckle

    terry huckle New Member

    Windy Rob

    I wondered where that had gone! (no hurry)

    You might see me sometime soon (ORF)
  13. ufkacbln

    ufkacbln Guest

    I have a recumbent:


    On these as you can see from this promotional photo there is a problem with heel overlap!
  14. Keith Oates

    Keith Oates Janner

    Penarth, Wales
    Heel overlap is something I've never thought about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  15. Flying_Monkey

    Flying_Monkey Toll Collector on the Road to Nowhere

    Toe-clip overlap is only a problem if you are an inexperienced cyclist... the smaller the frame the more likely you are to have it. It isn't a design fault, it is just a fact of life. I have it on all my frames and it has never caused me any problems.
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