New Moulton Double Pylon.

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Yellow Fang

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Reading
Flipping heck, what do you get for that! I saw one at the Cycle Show over the weekend and I told my mate it cost over £5000. It's not as if it's even particularly light by modern standards.
 

bonk man

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Malvernshire
better off sticking alloy wheels and decent bits on an F frame, mine is just under 30lbs with the steel wheels still attached. Bet it goes just as fast . :girl:

Carbon fibre F frame is the way to go Dr Moulton, aero and light... I'd give you 3 grand for something like that, but I haven't got £14k for this bike, not many will, let's see it out perform high end carbon machines..
 
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bobg

bobg

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bonk man said:
better off sticking alloy wheels and decent bits on an F frame, mine is just under 30lbs with the steel wheels still attached. Bet it goes just as fast . :evil:

Carbon fibre F frame is the way to go Dr Moulton, aero and light... I'd give you 3 grand for something like that, but I haven't got £14k for this bike, not many will, let's see it out perform high end carbon machines..

I'm with you on that BM except I have been unable to resist a Jubilee recently.
I wonder why he hasn't; maybe carbon is not appropriate for the stresses and strains of an F. Theres always titanium.
 

bonk man

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Malvernshire
Ti ... the engineering might be a bit of a hassle, probably knock the price up to £25k xx(

Just been reading the Moulton book, seems the early records; Cardiff-London etc were broken on a normal frame with lightweight bits and close Sturmey gears..
The only moans about the Moulton was the boingy suspension, however Dr Moulton told us to sit down and not stand on hills....

Any idea of the weight of the new machine? They managed to get the early sporty ones down to 24lbs, mine has a way to go on that score..but considering most carbon bikes in the over a grand bracket are around the 18lb mark if the new bike is overweight it might seem a tad over priced..especially to the non Moulton geek..
The suspension and little wheels of the originals compared well against the bikes of the time whether utility or in racing guise but can the latest offering beat the carbon competition? Will they let me have one for next season?:evil:
 
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bobg

bobg

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Alembicbassman said:

I've been watching that, I wonder what the reserve is. I'm holding out for a Speedsix I have a MkIII which looks very similar except I have yet to sort out the Raleigh BB thread in order to put a decent chainset on. Nice ride, but IMHO the frame is not a patch on the Series 1 and 11. The original forks are what I believe Raleigh called VA's ie Value assessment or somesuch - which in reality meant lets stick pressed steel forks on cos its cheaper. Funny how these little buggers grow on you, I have much nicer 50's classics but I can't resist Moultons
 

bonk man

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Location
Malvernshire
Yeh I think this ebayy one in nice but not particularly special... An early Moulton is a Moulton, you just hang the bits on for the job and away you go:biggrin:

It would be easy enough to pay a frame builder to knock up a rear 531 triangle for a mk3 to take wider hub and a rear mech.

The exceptions were the 531 framed specials but I would expect them to go for really silly money. I wonder though how much better the 531 frames were, lighter but still as slow on the hills, I really wouldn't do a hilly time trial on any Moulton no matter what it was made out of:laugh:

It is a really nice machine though:smile:
 

bonk man

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Malvernshire
1900 quid,,,,,,, should I list mine....

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bobg

bobg

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Good grief, I thought I was immune to Moulton prices........ It did have some nice period bits on it though. They're 110mm ( ish) dropout, I wonder if there's any other way of squeezing a rear mech on, that 3 speed SA weighs a ton. I was so inspired by that selling price that I just popped out to the shed and measured mine ( so to speak) If all else fails then ally rims are only £17each so an old style hub with an 11 tooth screw on single sprocket will go?? and with a 52 chainwheel that'll be fine if theres no hills. I feel a project coming on....
 

bonk man

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Malvernshire
I have loads of old 60's-70's racing bike bits, I also feel a project coming on, there are a few early Moultons on fleabbay at the moment, couple of rims, a respray, medium ratio 3 speed..... loads of wonga ;) ...
 
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bobg

bobg

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bonk man said:
Bargain... :angry: whens it going on ebayy then? £2000 starting price:biggrin:

Funny you should say that ...... Watch new ads closely :laugh: I've kept the sticky out bit at the back if anyone wants to convert it back to its original spec. I'll advertise that for £50 or best offer.
 
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