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New RLJ-ing motorist behaviour observed

Discussion in 'Commuting' started by palinurus, 18 Jan 2008.

  1. palinurus

    palinurus Guru

    Location:
    Watford
    Pretty common for a couple vehicles to slip through the red when I'm turning right into work at a crossroads in the morning. It's one of those junctions where I can wait in the middle for a gap, or, more usually, for the lights to go red and stop the traffic.

    Today was looking typical; one goes through on amber, next on red, the one following that slowed and flashed me to let me know he was stopping.

    Like thanks.
     
  2. Arch

    Arch Married to Night Train

    Location:
    York, UK
    I hope you conveyed the full force of your ironic last remark in a cheery, yet despising wave?:biggrin:
     
  3. wafflycat

    wafflycat New Member

    Location:
    middle of Norfolk
    I've said it before and I'll say it again - where I live, I see far more motorists who jump red lights than I do cyclists doing it.
     
  4. Tynan

    Tynan Veteran

    Location:
    e4
    I'd love to agree but I can't, see cars jump all the time, but most of them stop, I can't say the same for cyclists sadly

    I see more cyclist jump than cars and I see a higher proportion of cyclists jump cars than cars
     
  5. Not so sure about this.Dont usually see cyclists jump cars.:biggrin:
     
  6. bianchi1

    bianchi1 Veteran

    Location:
    malverns
    Driving up to a narrow bridge with traffic lights to control the flow with 2 cars in front of me. The lights turn red as the leading car is about 10 yards away and stopping. The car behind then overtakes him before jumping the red. Inevitably we catch up with him at the next junction. Whats the point.
     
  7. Tynan

    Tynan Veteran

    Location:
    e4
    because you can always hope to get greens after the red

    and worse case he's a one car further ahead
     
  8. gbb

    gbb Legendary Member

    Location:
    Peterborough
    Ive always noticed a marked increase in RLJing (by cars) at rush hour...its like every second counts. There are several sets of urban traffic lights on my ride. Any other time of day, drivers tend to obey....but when traffics heavy, its like another set of rules apply. Another reason to be even more alert at these times.

    Lack of police presence is one reason. We have the same with drivers using bus only sections within housing estates. Other drivers see people do it...all of a sudden 'everyones' doing it...not literally, but you get the gist.
    Theres hardly any chance of getting caught.
    The irony is, as a cyclist using the bus only sections, i get miffed when i see cars doing it.....but am i any better than the drivers.....no.

    Its also interesting when in other countries. Cyprus for instance, drivers will constantly RLJ if theres no opposing traffic....any time of day. Its 'normal'.

    Similar story, not quite as bad in Greece, but i found drivers in Spain to be pretty law abiding.
     
  9. BentMikey

    BentMikey Rider of Seolferwulf

    Location:
    South London
    Far far more drivers would jump lights if the car in front didn't prevent them from doing so by blocking their access to the junction.

    Already 1 in 10 cars, and 1 in 5 buses jump lights in London. On my route there are more motor vehicles than cyclists jumping lights.
     
  10. Ive been stopped before at Red at an ASL before the car behind has stopped also then after a few seconds they decide to overtake and go through red. My first though was why? but my second thought was if he's that much of a nutter, I'm glad he's away.
     
  11. Cars are motor vehicles no?:biggrin:
     
  12. goo_mason

    goo_mason Champion barbed-wire hurdler

    Location:
    Leith, Edinburgh
    Sat and watched a car drive through red and across a junction on the way home tonight, steaming across the cycle/pedestrian crossing that was on green at the time. Luckily people weren't on it.

    Driver waiting at the red going the other direction flashed the idiot as she passed him. He was swearing too, from the looks of him, but the woman wouldn't have heard it anyway.

    I often wonder what pathetic excuse they'd come out with if they mowed down and killed someone who was crossing on the green man. They'd no doubt get off with a slap on the wrist and a small fine. Grrr. :biggrin:
     
  13. They just don't seem to care anymore which is a mirror of our society.

    Luckily for me I have visited other countries and found there are nice considerate people about.
     
  14. simonali

    simonali Über Member

    Location:
    Wiltshire
    I got hit by a motorcycle in the middle of a pedestrian crossing many years ago, so it's not a new thing! All the cars were stopped, he was overtaking the queue and didn't bother stopping at the red light. I wasn't hurt, but I walk quite fast and there were women with children crossing at the same time, just a step or 2 behind me. Could've been a child in a pushchair he had hit.
     
  15. I stopped a 42 tonne artic at some amber lights today, only to have the car alongside my trailer wheels go on to jump them when they were well red. I mean, if I could stop 42 tonnes, surely he could have stopped his puny little Ford Mundano?