New secondhand car

[cyberknight]

Van derived car is a better bet surely? Like a Berlingo Multispace or a Renault Kangoo. How we miss our Kangoo car. Superb bike/family transport.

But to the OP's point.... A Toyota, though I have my misgivings about the Aygo actually being a Toyota as it appears to be a Citroen, or is it a Peugeot....

Thats becuse they are all made in the same factory.....unless of course you know that already .
The 3 companies all funded the common platform venture, the only real differences will be badge and maybe the trim as the rest is the same car so buy the citreon as its cheaper for the same car.

 

[smokeysmoo]

But to the OP's point.... A Toyota, though I have my misgivings about the Aygo actually being a Toyota as it appears to be a Citroen, or is it a Peugeot....

The Aygo is 100% a Toyota, the Peugeot and Citroen versions are just cosmetically different. You see more Peugeots as the 107 has consistently outsold both the C1 and the Aygo.
However, the car was not Toyotas finest hour by any stretch. Early cars suffered from premature clutch failure, all models have consistently suffered water ingress due to blocked vents and poor door seals, so it just shows even the mighty Japs get it wrong some times. The trouble with the Aygo is it has reflected badly on the French manufacturers who decided to share the vehicle with Toyota. Perhaps the French believed all the hype about Jap reliability too, hopefully they will have learnt by the time it gets replaced.

 

[rusky]

Apart from the bleedin' obvious, I have no idea what that is Rus!

 

[screenman]

Just got past my 40 years in the motor trade, I have owned in excess of 5,000 cars ( I was once a dealer) I now own a VW and my wife a Citreon. I would never own a Ford or a Vauxhall unless it had a bit of profit left in it for me to sell on quickly.

I have met plenty of people who say that Citreons go wrong, all these people have one thing in common they have never owned one.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Thats becuse they are all made in the same factory.....unless of course you know that already .
The 3 companies all funded the common platform venture, the only real differences will be badge and maybe the trim as the rest is the same car so buy the citreon as its cheaper for the same car.

The Aygo is 100% a Toyota, the Peugeot and Citroen versions are just cosmetically different. You see more Peugeots as the 107 has consistently outsold both the C1 and the Aygo.
However, the car was not Toyotas finest hour by any stretch. Early cars suffered from premature clutch failure, all models have consistently suffered water ingress due to blocked vents and poor door seals, so it just shows even the mighty Japs get it wrong some times. The trouble with the Aygo is it has reflected badly on the French manufacturers who decided to share the vehicle with Toyota. Perhaps the French believed all the hype about Jap reliability too, hopefully they will have learnt by the time it gets replaced.

If one's wife were to buy one of these badge engineered marvels would I be right in thinking that, on average, she might enjoy the levels of service offered at our local Toyota dealer rather more than that of our local Pug shifter? (Our Citroen garage being a second-hand furniture shop these days)

(for the record I'm a bit of a Citroenphile. We've owned a 2CV, a DS, a ZX turbo diesel (company car), a BX, an XM (company car) and a Zantia; all were stunningly reliable and great value for money. The best by a country mile, and still her favourite car of all time, was the ZX)

 

[smokeysmoo]

Thats becuse they are all made in the same factory.....unless of course you know that already .
The 3 companies all funded the common platform venture, the only real differences will be badge and maybe the trim as the rest is the same car so buy the citreon as its cheaper for the same car.

That's right, all three cars share the same production line at the plant in Kolin in the Czech Republic. The Citroen is marketed as the cheap and cheerful budget option, the Peugeot as a mid-spec model and the Toyota is supposed to be seen as being more upmarket, but as I said, the Peugeot has consistantly outsold the other two. Perhaps people want to retain a reasonable resale value but don't want to shell out top dollar for the Aygo.
The re-sale values are affected according to the buying prices as you would expect, so you'll always get less for the Citroen then the other two.
The Peuegot has only ever been built with the 3 cylinder petrol engine, but they do a diesel as well in either the Citroen or the Toyota, (not sure which, or maybe both, dunno), but it's overkill IMO as the 3 cyl petrol engine itself is a little belter.

If one's wife were to buy one of these badge engineered marvels would I be right in thinking that, on average, she might enjoy the levels of service offered at our local Toyota dealer rather more than that of our local Pug shifter? (Our Citroen garage being a second-hand furniture shop these days)

IME the same parts from Toyota are HUGELY more expensive then from Peugeot/Citroen. A perfect example being a wiring loom we have just had to buy from Toyota. For reasons that baffle me Peugeot/Citroen were not able to supply one, although their price was £190, the one from Toyota was £460!! Same car, same loom, go figure! We've come across it with Steering components too, Toyota seem to think they can apply the same ridiculously high prices to Aygo parts as they do everything else, even though you can goto your local Peugeot/Citroen dealer and buy the same parts for considerably less. Our 107 oil filters are Peugeot boxed, but take the filter out and it says Toyota on it.
So Greg, if your happy with your Toyota dealer then stick with them but have your pockets deepend, alterntively give your local Peugeot dealer a try, you might just be surprised with what they can offer

 

[Linford]

Van derived car is a better bet surely? Like a a Renault Kangoo. How we miss our Kangoo car. Superb bike/family transport.

The brakes aren't that hot in them

 

[007fair]

If your mileage ain't high then what about this
http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/classic-car-page/161429/1989-nissan-sunny/

We ran one of these from 8years old to 15years old and it was perfectly reliable. You could buy it for 800 run it three years and sell it for the same price.. or blow it up top gear style.

 

[Canrider]

Just got past my 40 years in the motor trade, I have owned in excess of 5,000 cars ( I was once a dealer) I now own a VW and my wife a Citreon. I would never own a Ford or a Vauxhall unless it had a bit of profit left in it for me to sell on quickly.

I have met plenty of people who say that Citreons go wrong, all these people have one thing in common they have never owned one.

Hi, meet me: we bought a used C3 for Mrs Canrider's commute. Failed twice (fortunately under warranty), first time with 'The worst misfire we've ever seen in a car', second time with 'we took the part out and put it in a different C3 and that one wouldn't even start'. Running ok now (touch wood), but that was pretty wrong for two months of the three month warranty!

 

[GrumpyGregry]

The brakes aren't that hot in them

The ABS on mine worked fine. There is that thing about the two second rule you need to remember though

 

[Linford]

The ABS on mine worked fine. There is that thing about the two second rule you need to remember though

The driver of that van ran into the back of mine - I'm glad to say that the 'give cyclists room' sticker on the bumper is still intact along with the rest of my car