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Cardiff driver gets 9 points on licence and a fine for this. Well done Cardiff police who seem pro-active on prosecuting these drivers.
View: https://youtu.be/hvCqXIj_JM8
View: https://youtu.be/hvCqXIj_JM8
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Outrageously bad bit of driving. What was with the wee "toot" shortly before? Is that supposed to mean "get out my way I'm coming through"?
Sad that the driver didn't get a lengthy ban, but good that they got the maximum amount of points allowed. It's the system that needs changed.
I used to be one of them too, in my previous life!Maybe @Drago or other Dibble might care to take a look?
I used to be one of them too, in my previous life!
As per usual though, the result has little to do with the Police. They follow guidelines from above as to what people get charged with, and are really just information and evidence gatherers.
A report outlining the circumstances of the incident, based on witness accounts and in this case camera footage, is then submitted to the CPS (England/Wales) or the Procurator Fiscal (Scotland). It is then up to the CPS/PF what charges are brought to court.
The fact that no contact was made between car and cyclists is probably what saved the driver from the more serious charge of dangerous driving. Good luck and evasive action by the cyclists then.
A report outlining the circumstances of the incident, based on witness accounts and in this case camera footage, is then submitted to the CPS (England/Wales) or the Procurator Fiscal (Scotland). It is then up to the CPS/PF what charges are brought to court.
And that's the heart of the problem. Not even cyclists yet agree that endangering people by incompetent motoring is "far below" the driving standards.Is barging past a cyclist at a traffic island 'far below' the standard of a careful and competent driver?
I would say not, it is below that standard, and/or a momentary lapse of attention, which is the definition of careless driving, which in turn is presumably what was charged.
Killed, not injured. I think you're referring to the travesty that was the Michael Mason case, which is summarised at https://www.cyclinguk.org/blog/duncandollimore/mason-verdicta cyclist was knocked over and killed [...]
The injured party's family
The driver deserved every little bit of that.
But passing a junction while staring straight ahead and not adjusting positioning, and doing the same at a bottleneck is woefully poor cyclecraft.
I do wonder whether there ought to be a system such that you aren't exonerated of all charges if the higher charge is not found to be proved.