No wonder the Scots want out

[byegad]

[QUOTE 2956281, member: 1314"]I'm all for Scottish Independence partly because then London can campaign to leave the rUK. London is not a UK or even a European city, it is a Global city.

LONG LIVE LONDON

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I'd vote for that in a second. Independent London and the United Kingdom of the rest of the UK. Maybe then we'd stop spending so much in the South East.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

[QUOTE 2956357, member: 9609"]I was looking at that map and imagined it as a person or animal - at the very top is the head with the neck at the Edinburgh Glasgow level, then we have the trunk with Wales making up a big belly, Devon and Cornwall are clearly the legs and feet. Which leaves something that seems to represent a bum hole and bottom [/quote]

I've always seen Anglia as being an enormous bum with the Thames and London right at the vital point....

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

That said, I wonder what Bristol has done recently to deserve being the bits at it were....

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

Or if he is, it isn't being reported. This concerns me greatly, as he should be out there shouting from the rooftops if he has a viable plan to take us forward.

Being a Yes supporter, even I have noticed this to a certain degree, and I don't know why it is, what is he waiting for? I mean many of the issues can be figured out using just a bit of logic if you wee to put yourself in the same position.

THAT SAID! You do have to realise that most of the media are biased towards the Union, especially BBC Scotland, so I do know for a fact that a lot of Pro Independence things just are not reported (a bit like the toxic atmosphere that generally pervades this forum on the matter), whereas that Badgery eejit Darling or one of his other stooges only has to sneeze and we all know about it.

 

[sazzaa]

[QUOTE 2956570, member: 9609"]think of it as leaving a secure job and becoming self employed, the future just suddenly becomes more exciting with all manner of possibilities.
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A lot of people don't do this because they prefer security to risk. I have the choice at the moment and prefer the secure job..

 

[Louch]

Well, I love Scotland and I'll still love it if it goes independent. It's one of the most beautiful places on earth (admittedly it does have some s***e bits as well).

Has no one told you we are letting England keep fife?

 

[Brandane]

[QUOTE 2956570, member: 9609"]-think of it as leaving a secure job and becoming self employed, the future just suddenly becomes more exciting with all manner of possibilities.[/quote]
But ..... one of those possibilities might be returning to a secure job if being self employed didn't work out.
In the case of independence, there is no going back. It's not like there is going to be another chance to vote in 4 years time, and return to the union if Alex has led us to oblivion.

 

[Brandane]

Why not? I'm not suggesting it's likely but another act of union can't be completely impossible, should anyone want it

I suppose there is no technical reason why the union could not be reformed, but I don't think it is the sort of thing that you can mess about with every few years in the way we currently do with Government elections.
Anyway, once we are gone the rest of the Union will be stuck with a Tory government for evermore (see above map), and it is unlikely that they would want the Scots back on board as we are not known for our Tory voting tendencies (see same map above!).

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

There are more Pandas in Scotland than there are elected Tories!

 

[pauldavid]

There are more Pandas in Scotland than there are elected Tories!

Forgive me for asking but aren't those Pandas immigrants, and not paying taxes thorugh any gainful employment?

If so the tories will have them out, don't you worry.

 

[MikeG]

.... once we are gone the rest of the Union will be stuck with a Tory government for evermore (see above map), and it is unlikely that they would want the Scots back on board as we are not known for our Tory voting tendencies (see same map above!).

I'm not so sure. Those maps look overwhelmingly blue because of large rural constituencies, but small urban ones are much more likely to be Labour. We aren't governed by the party which holds the biggest area !! Furthermore, Labour will have to re-invent itself if it loses the 50-odd seats in Scotland. It will have to move further towards the centre ground of (remainder)UK politics. Either that, or lose out to the Lib Dems in the long term.

It is an interesting fact that the only election since 1979 which would have produced a different result if the Scottish vote were excluded was the last one, 2010, which would have returned a Conservative majority rather than a hung parliament.

Scotland going would certainly give rUK a better chance of having a government which reflects the will of England. Our politics has been heavily skewed by Scotland, particularly during the Blair/ Brown era, and this may well be part of the reason why Scottish independence is more popular in England than in Scotland. That, and the constant whining from the ultra-nationalists in Scotland.

Mike

 

[sazzaa]

There are more Pandas in Scotland than there are elected Tories!

The pandas are rubbish, sack having to book an appointment to look at a bored panda!

 

[Louch]

That claim's been demolished so many times it's not worth doing again...

Show me then. Scotland's GDP is greater than amount spent in Scotland in any report I have seen

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

The pandas are rubbish, sack having to book an appointment to look at a bored panda!

Not as rubbish as the Scottish Tories, and the rest of the country agrees!!

 

[TVC]

Has no one told you we are letting England keep fife?

Only because it makes Cardiff look good.






And that concludes my contribution to this thread