not related to cycling directly but its annoys me anyway.

[Mad Doug Biker]

LUCKILY nobody has ever really kicked my dogs... Well, ok, except for the old woman in the local sheltered home complex as Bruno, our previous dog momentarily stepped onto a piece of grass (shock horror!) and she just whacked him. And the two idiots who attacked both myself and Bruno one day in the park. Bruno ran off and left me to it (thanks!), and I found him a little bit later outside a nearby kebab shop (sensible beast).
The guys who attacked us were charged by the way.

Seriously though, kick my dog and I'll want to kick you even harder (and no, I didn't kick the old woman, even though I was NOT impressed and Bruno was as confused as to why he'd just been hit as I was).

 

[Oldspice]

WTF?

Here we go again, both owner and dog are not, I repeat NOT somehow psychically connected, if a dog wants to say hello to you then they will, and can be determined despite what the owner tries to do, it's like having a small kid in tow who's just determined come hell or high water to do something regardless of what you do. If you kick my dog just for being over friendly, particularly whilst I am trying to deal with them then yes, you bloody well WILL be responsible, especially if you injure them.

Seeing as you have never come for a walk with me and my dog, and seeing as you have not seen the other dogs coming at me and my dog. I'm kicking the damn thing as often as it takes for it to go away.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

Seeing as you have never come for a walk with me and my dog, and seeing as you have not seen the other dogs coming at me and my dog. I'm kicking the damn thing as often as it takes for it to go away.

You didn't say you were with another dog, that alters the conversation considerably, I thought you were just saying generally. Oh and Bruno didn't like other dogs, but I NEVER had to kick any of them, Bruno was capable of doing that himself as it were. They can't ALL be rabid loony dogs!..... Can they?...... Even the little puppy wanting to say hello? Methinks you are stereotyping all the other dogs in your area.... Or....It's YOU who has the rabid loony HellHound who eats small children for breakfast!!

 

[Oldspice]

You didn't say you were with another dog, that alters the conversation considerably, I thought you were just saying generally. Oh and Bruno didn't like other dogs, but I NEVER had to kick any of them, Bruno was capable of doing that himself as it were. They can't ALL be rabid loony dogs!..... Can they?...... Even the little puppy wanting to say hello? Methinks you are stereotyping all the other dogs in your area.... Or....It's YOU who has the rabid loony HellHound who eats small children for breakfast!!

See previous post for an answer and keep repeating.

 

[summerdays]

Since I'm on the subject, non dog owners are one thing, but probably the biggest bunch of self righteous twats I have come across are the people who apparently NEVER forget to take a poo bag or two with them and/or expect everyone else to be the same 24/7, and don't seem to account for simple human error.

I live near a park and the other day I saw someone walking their dog and then routing around in the bin. As he pulled out a crisp packet I realised that he was looking for something to clear up after his dog.

Another park that I cycle through where they were sick of some dog owners not clearing up after themselves, actually has bags tied onto several trees and fences.

And a path that I go along has cut up milk bottles to use as a scoop tucked up into a hedge.

As for the OP, I have a friend with a child on the Autistic Spectrum and he is terrified of dogs and has had some CBT to try and combat it a bit. It used to actually stop him going to places like the park. The has helped (he can now go to the park etc), however he still doesn't want them approaching him, and his parents hate it when owners say their dog is very friendly. They point out their son isn't!

 

[Smurfy]

Dog owner: "Don't worry, he's just being friendly"
Me: *Thinking* No kidding, I've now got the muddy paw prints all the way up my beige trousers to prove it

 

[skudupnorth]

I absolutly love four legged critters, but as already said SOME owners have made areas set out for familes to enjoy a no go mine field due to the amount of crap left.We even found one thoughtful owner had let their pooch crap outside the school....nice ! As a volunteer ranger we come across a lot of crap which is part of the job but what is a real bug bare for even seasoned rangers is the term we now call the "Christmas tree" where owners have nicely bagged up the poo but then leave it either hanging in trees/bushes or on the ground !
I think everyone should get a cat because at least they bury their crap in your neighbours garden

 

[Rickshaw Phil]

Dog owner: "Don't worry, he's just being friendly"
Me: *Thinking* No kidding, I've now got the muddy paw prints all the way up my beige trousers to prove it

I've had this a fair few times too, the most notable being the collie that had just come out of Coniston Water and decided I was his new best friend.

That I can cope with. What I do object to is when I am walking with my own dogs and another dog comes bounding across the field and there is no sight of the owner.

Busby (currently in my avatar pic) does not go chasing off after other dogs but if a strange dog approaches him he feels threatened and will try to fight it off. This is very embarrasing but would be completely avoidable if the other owner had the faintest idea of where their dog was or what it was doing.

 

[Arjimlad]

You imply nobody did it until a bin appeared. Some of us do clean up when we can, regardless of dog bin, which incidentally is usually full and needs emptied, ironically probably making it more of a health risk than if the crap is randomly in the bushes/long grass.

For the record, dogs seem to be a prize subject on this forum and have seen plenty of the above before, so just getting my punches in first, like.

The significant amount of dog crap on the field played a big part in the school which owns it fencing 75% of it off altogether, barring public access to all the locals who had used it for running, picnics, sport and walks for more than 40 years. The open access part is right by our house, which is great for my kids playing on the field.

Putting the bin in has certainly helped a lot. It's emptied every Monday morning. There were always plenty of dog owners who cleared up but a significant minority who did not. I asked a local builder to clear up after his GSD after I saw it crimp off a massive pile of poop, only for him to lie to my face & say it was not his dog wot done it as it was freshly steaming !

I like dogs - I shoot - and love seeing them at work. Many of my friends have dogs and they come round & are very welcome.

I would have a dog if I thought it would have a good life at our home, but it'd have to spend too much time alone whilst we're out at work.

Of course they have to take a crap and the majority of dog owners, thankfully, clear up. It's just those who let them off the lead and pay no attention to where they go, who get my goat a little.

Open plan front gardens - it's in the deeds - don't help, and my neighbour's child and mine have both been knocked over & pawed by an "over-friendly" dog, which is pretty scary for them. They've also been chased indoors and attacked by a barking jumping boxer dog whose owner was too chicken to come through the gaps in the hedge and into our street to get the dog back under control. I had to chase it off whilst the owner stood 25m away feebly calling it. No hint of an apology for terrorising small children.

There are occasionally off-the-lead & out of control bull terrier types which will also chase the kids (try telling a 9 yr old not to run from one of those). I have dashed onto the field mentally preparing to do battle in the past and I expect I will have to dash out again in the future.

Just like cyclists & motorists, some dog owners are cockwombles, but the majority are perfectly nice & sensible & considerate.

 

[Trail Child]

I have 3 Labrador retrievers and I don't tolerate them jumping on anyone at all. I also pick up after them 100% of the time because nothing drives me more nuts than people thinking the path & green space as a dog toilet. I walk & bike up there! The majority around here are also responsible pet owners, but it's the tiny majority that make it look bad for the rest of us.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

See previous post for an answer and keep repeating.

.... Oldspice kicks puppies and has a 'devil dog!!'

Really, I doubt yours is the only dog there which isn't dangerous

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

Dog owner: "Don't worry, he's just being friendly"
Me: *Thinking* No kidding, I've now got the muddy paw prints all the way up my beige trousers to prove it

BEIGE??!! Anyone who wears beige trousers is fair game, sorry!

 

[oldfatfool]

I only ask once to keep there dog away, then i just boot them. There not my dog, i am not responsible for there existence, they are.

I have four hounds, you don't want them to say hello then don't pass within the length of their lead (aimed at someone without dogs). You saying keep them away, and I won't deliberately enter your space, not that we ever approach another dog on a lead due to having a pack, but I won't walk down the middle of the road to avoid you either, you alter direction, or we avoid one another, with a good distance , you approach me you kick my dogs, don't expect to father kids because my size 11 will be going where no boot should travel. (edited as oldspice as a dog with him)

If my dogs represented any threat they would be muzzled, as parents if you don't want your kids to say hello to any dogs please keep your kids under control, you screaming at your kids and the dogs dogs if they come within yards of one another will only excite the dogs and scare your kids to the point they think they have to go round kicking them.(Then you will never know the joy of granparenthood!) Please don't drag/ manhandle your kids away from dogs if they are already saying hello, not only will it make your kids paranoid and give them a fear of dogs, you are also likely to get bitten if the dog decides you are posing a threat to the child, the dog doesn't know you are the childs parents.

To the op, agree 100% dogs should be kept on a short (4-5') lead when on public or unfenced land, should not be walked over designated kiddies play areas or sports pitches and all crap should be scooped to the best of the owners ability.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

I have four hounds, you don't want them to say hello then don't pass within the length of their lead (aimed at someone without dogs). You saying keep them away, and I won't deliberately enter your space, not that we ever approach another dog on a lead due to having a pack, but I won't walk down the middle of the road to avoid you either, you alter direction, or we avoid one another, with a good distance , you approach me you kick my dogs, don't expect to father kids because my size 11 will be going where no boot should travel. (edited as oldspice as a dog with him)

If my dogs represented any threat they would be muzzled, as parents if you don't want your kids to say hello to any dogs please keep your kids under control, you screaming at your kids and the dogs dogs if they come within yards of one another will only excite the dogs and scare your kids to the point they think they have to go round kicking them.(Then you will never know the joy of granparenthood!) Please don't drag/ manhandle your kids away from dogs if they are already saying hello, not only will it make your kids paranoid and give them a fear of dogs, you are also likely to get bitten if the dog decides you are posing a threat to the child, the dog doesn't know you are the childs parents.

Let's see if you get a rather pithy (and somewhat unhelpful) answer too.

 

[markharry66]

I would never consider booting a dog. I like animals to. My son does not pure and simple. Plus this was a hard court football pitch fenced off they let their dogs run over it and it scared the shoot out my dog. Then balling at the top his voice it wont hurt you (prick)