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Dave7

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Cheshire
We have taken to Chilean wine, they make a cracking Merlot.
We have stopped drinking Chilean wine or eating grapes from Chile since I read the amount of pesticides they use on them........something like 30 times the legal limit (don't quote me on that).
 

subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
We have stopped drinking Chilean wine or eating grapes from Chile since I read the amount of pesticides they use on them........something like 30 times the legal limit (don't quote me on that).

I just don't get out of bed in the morning anymore. its pointless as something will kill you .


there is another brand that do this - they sell a summer fruits "wine" which is 5% . Blossom hill I think.

it is Ok as a thirst quencher. that is about it though.

me - I like a nice rioja . Asda in snozzell had the full range of Faustino in the summer. we had a bottle of each ( not in one night - it was over 2) and i decided i liked the III the best. so we drank that . was £8 a bottle and bloody good
 

PK99

Legendary Member
Location
SW19
A lot of people in this country pooh-pooh Australian table wines. This is a pity, as many fine Australian wines appeal not only to the Australian palette, but also to the cognoscenti of Great Britain.

'Black stump Bordeaux' is rightly praised as a peppermint flavoured Burgundy, whilst a good 'Sydney Syrup' can rank with any of the world's best sugary wines.

'Chateau Bleu', too, has won many prizes; not least for its taste, and its lingering afterburn.

'Old Smokey, 1968' has been compared favourably to a Welsh claret, whilst the Australian wino society thouroughly recommends a 1970 'Coq du Rod Laver', which, believe me, has a kick on it like a mule: 8 bottles of this, and you're really finished -- at the opening of the Sydney Bridge Club, they were fishing them out of the main sewers every half an hour.

Of the sparkling wines, the most famous is 'Perth Pink'. This is a bottle with a message in, and the message is BEWARE!. This is not a wine for drinking -- this is a wine for laying down and avoiding.

Another good fighting wine is 'Melbourne Old-and-Yellow', which is particularly heavy, and should be used only for hand-to-hand combat.

Quite the reverse is true of 'Chateau Chunder', which is an Appalachian controle, specially grown for those keen on regurgitation -- a fine wine which really opens up the sluices at both ends.

Real emetic fans will also go for a 'Hobart Muddy', and a prize winning 'Cuiver Reserve Chateau Bottled Nuit San Wogga Wogga', which has a bouquet like an aborigine's armpit.

http://www.wine-pages.com/features/python.htm
 

PK99

Legendary Member
Location
SW19
(Rounamian) Edit : Bulgarian wine used to be very good. I went downhill overnight when Nelson Mandela was released - I'll leave it to the reader to put two and two together and get four on than one!
 

Dave7

Legendary Member
Location
Cheshire
I just don't get out of bed in the morning anymore. its pointless as something will kill you .
there is another brand that do this - they sell a summer fruits "wine" which is 5% . Blossom hill I think.
it is Ok as a thirst quencher. that is about it though.
me - I like a nice rioja . Asda in snozzell had the full range of Faustino in the summer. we had a bottle of each ( not in one night - it was over 2) and i decided i liked the III the best. so we drank that . was £8 a bottle and bloody good

If you don't get out of bed any more how did you get the Asda wine :smile:
I agree.....a nice rioja takes some beating.
But seriously................is there really a place called Snozell ?
 

subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
If you don't get out of bed any more how did you get the Asda wine :smile:
I agree.....a nice rioja takes some beating.
But seriously................is there really a place called Snozell ?

St Austell , pronounced snozzell.

actually thats a place with stuff in the water too.
 
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Piemaster

Piemaster

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No - it's de-alcoholised wine. Under EU regulations its not allowed to be described as wine if it's below a certain ABV (5% IIRC), so it has to be described as a 'wine styie' drink.

As for watering down wine, nothing wrong with a nice white wine spritzer or a glass of red with water on a hot day in a Mediterranean country - the locals do it all the time. It helps you stay awake 'til then evening, when you can drink it straight in the cool of the night.
The shy pig stuff is 10.5% ABV. It could be diluted with a cider, which from the taste of it wouldn't surprise me. As 10% would be about right for a white if it was a wine base, if it was diluted with water then surely they would then have to bump up the alcohol % with something else. Rubbing alcohol perhaps.
 
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The shy pig stuff is 10.5% ABV. It could be diluted with a cider, which from the taste of it wouldn't surprise me. As 10% would be about right for a white if it was a wine base, if it was diluted with water then surely they would then have to bump up the alcohol % with something else. Rubbing alcohol perhaps.

"Wine style drinks" like Shy Pig and Copper are diltued with water or maybe non-fermented grape must. No one seems to be really sure since under EU rules they have to have at least 75% wine, but there's no requirement to state what the other 25% is. It essentially allows the producers to ship a strong wine to the UK and then dilute it once it gets here.
 

Fnaar

Smutmaster General
Location
Thumberland
My local corner shop was doing 2 bottles for 8 quid of what looked like wine. Hey, it was late, everywhere else was shut, my visitors fancied a drink.... ewww.... and it didn't really 'do the trick' as well as tasting odd (I persevered, though...) It was only when recycling the bottles that I took a closer look... 8% wine-style drink.

Mind you, I wouldn't drink an 8% beer (at least not any more...(too much special brew when I was in my 20s)... so what's the difference?
 

gavgav

Legendary Member
Reminds me of a recent holiday to the Lake District where Doug bought a bottle of wine for himself.

I decided to have a Vimto and @Rickshaw Phil poured Doug a wine (I think, or was it the other way round??) anyhow whoever took a sip of the wine questioned whether they had been given the Vimto, not the wine........

Checked the bottle and it was "cafe culture" wine at 4% abv!! Not much good that stuff!
 
It's always amazed me that the food labelling laws don't extend to drinks here. I'm ok with beer being labelled as "beer" (don't need to see a list of malt, barley, hops, water, yeast etc), similarly wine being labelled as "wine" (assuming it a mix of grapes, yeast, mould, antifreeze and time :smile: ), but if you take something widely regarded as "wine" and mix it with something else why don't you have to put that on the label, just as you would with milk if you took out the cream and replaced it with palm oil.

This can be quite revealing. There was a alcopop in Australia, Lemon Ruski that boasted on the label that the vodka was pure, triple filtered etc etc. But if you had enough light in the night club to read the small print, you'd see that the alcohol was provided by wine, and vodka was the last ingredient. IE they put enough in to justify mention it all over the advertising and bottle, but not enough to justify the price they were charging over other wine coolers.

(Lemon Ruski is still a thing, and they still gloat over how pure the vodka is. Unfortunately I can't tell online if it's still a wine cooler, or if they have changed the ingredients to reflect the marketing.)
 
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