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Nutter

Discussion in 'Commuting' started by yorkshiregoth, 28 Aug 2007.

  1. yorkshiregoth

    yorkshiregoth Master of all he surveys

    Location:
    Heathrow
    Normally I would keep quiet but cycling home this afternoon, I had the misfortune to see some guy RLJ every red light and almost hit some woman with her baby so I turned on my camera as I overtook him for the umpteenth and then I had to stop at the next set of lights. In his haste to RLJ he just missed me. I soon caught up with him and VERY politely informed him that traffic signals apply to ALL road users. He then started shouting at me in Polish and he then tried to knock me off my bike, tried to spit at me (luckily he missed) or I would have been tempted to shove me cleats up his rear. He then started swearing at me in English and threatened to stab me. At this point I politely informed him that he was being filmed and the footage would be passed on to the police (not that they would be interested) which may have encouraged him to make the next turning.

     
  2. yenrod

    yenrod Guest

    I would have just let him get on with it...

    Not worth the risk ! ! !
     
  3. col

    col Veteran

    Its a sad sign of the times,we have nutters in vehicles as we do on bikes,and it seems everywhere else,i mean just look at the towns on weekends.All we can do,is hopefully show by example and be as safe as we can,but approaching people like this, to point out to them what they probably already know and dont give a toss about,can be in todays climate a bit risky,as in you dont know what they might pull out. im with Yenrod,dont put yourself at more risk,they wont take any notice anyway,and you could end up in a bad situation.
     
  4. Cab

    Cab New Member

    Location:
    Cambridge
    You should take it to plod. They won't care, but you should still do it.
     
  5. Chuffy

    Chuffy Veteran

    Hmmm. I disagree with Yenners and Col (although I can understand why they would think that). Well done for standing up to this twat. It's a bit like bailing out a bath with a teaspoon, but well done for trying.
    There probably won't be much plod can do, given the lack of face on the vid, but you could always contact them and have a word. They may have a friendly copper who will keep an eye out. From my experience the plod round here are pretty bike friendly if you can give them a good clear statement.
     
  6. col

    col Veteran

    Well done for standing up to this twat.


    I didnt see it as this,i saw it as he pointed out the errors of his ways,now if he had been trying to target YG in some way,now that would be standing up to him,but iv seen and had enough incidents in the passed where i feel its better to let them go,ease back till they are out of the way,or just pull away from them,why make possible hassle for yourself?After YG said what he said,he then targeted him.And if some thing had gone wrong,i suppose we could visit him in hospital and say ,"well done for standing up to him",but the worst part of it all is,it probably wouldnt have made any difference,so being pointless really.;)
     
  7. Keith Oates

    Keith Oates Janner

    Location:
    Penarth, Wales
    Although there was no face shot, his riding style is quite distinctive so he could be recognised again. However I doubt the Police would be overly interested unless he actually hit you or worse!!!!!!!!!
     
  8. dangerousjules

    dangerousjules New Member

    just a POB...pr*ck on bike.
     
  9. magnatom

    magnatom Guest

    You had every right to stand up to him as he endangered you and others. I can understand why some say not to confront, but I think in these situations (broad daylight plenty of witnesses, helmet camera etc) the actual risk is lot smaller than the perceived risk.
    Often threats are just bravado and will very rarely be followed through. Of course there are exceptions but IMHO very rare.

    It really is a shame you didn't catch his face as I would have gone straight to the police in that situation. As Keith says his riding style is very distinctive ;)

    I wouldn't want any spit to hit you, but it is also a shame that his spit didn't land somewhere that could have been swabbed by the police. I think police take this act very seriously (assault I believe).

    Well done for standing up to him!
     
  10. Jacomus-rides-Gen

    Jacomus-rides-Gen New Member

    Location:
    Guildford / London
    Spit landing on a person is taken very seriously indeed, as well it should. If they spit at you and are carrying disease - it could hit your eyes, go in your mouth, or any skin abrasions you might have.

    What if they have aids etc? I would push for that to be assault with a deadley weapon.
     
  11. col

    col Veteran




    Dont get me wrong,i believe in standing up for ourselves when needed,but iv seen the "we have the right " thing taken all too regularly,and used as a reason to push a situation that could become risky,which some of the time doesnt help matters,but makes them worse.If we were to advise every idiot that we see driving or cycling dangerously,i dont think it would be very enjoyable getting out on the bike.:sad:
     
  12. yorkshiregoth

    yorkshiregoth Master of all he surveys

    Location:
    Heathrow
    If his spit had landed on me, I would have gone back to my station where we store DNA swab kits for such a purpose. Alas, it has become part of our station equipment, it occurs so often.
     
  13. starseven

    starseven Guest

    I should be careful, next week he may have cleaned enough cars to buy one!!

    Polish Licence(won in a raffle) No insurance and a 10yr old Mondeo coming your way:ohmy::ohmy:
     
  14. purpleR

    purpleR Senior Member

    Location:
    Edinburgh
    Slightly OT, but I feel I should challenge this misconception. HIV has never been shown to be transmitted via saliva. Other infections might be passed on, but HIV is not one of them.
     
  15. Jacomus-rides-Gen

    Jacomus-rides-Gen New Member

    Location:
    Guildford / London
    Thank you for that challenge purpleR, its always a bugger to find out that I was wrong about something, but its all about the learning I say! (Thats my excuse anyway, and I'm sticking to it! ;) )

    It seems that there is still a chance of infection, albeit significantly lower than I previously thought. As you point out there are many diseases that can be passed via saliva, so in a way I feel that spitting at someone (provided that the spitter(?!?) knows that they have an infection of somehthing is assaulting with a weapon.