O.D.D

[steve50]

Anyone ever raised a child with this disorder? I am asking because I suspect my wife and I are raising our little one with it. At four and a half years old he is a real handful, defiant would be an understatement.

 

[BikeGirlKent]

I have a 14 year old with Aspergers and ADHD and a 11 year old with Autism and ADHD. Hard work to say the least! I read a lot about ODD and it seems to be quite a new part of Autism Umbrella. Ill send you the link in a bit.

 

[BikeGirlKent]

http://www.kidsmentalhealth.org/children-conduct-disorder-oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd/ Have read, I've been through the system for referrals, specialists and even as far as tribunals with mine so feel free to pick my brain!

 

[Globalti]

I don't mean to belittle your obvious distress with the child but.... isn't this just a fancy name for naughty? We had to suffer a naughty child on a recent 90 minute flight and by the end, all the passengers around him were ready to commit murder. As the web page says, consistency, routine and firmness are the keys along with positive reinforcement of the right behaviour.

 

[summerdays]

I have come across one child who had that diagnosis and I would say it is beyond naughty, (it wasn't even always naughty more disruptive or awkward). The "arguing black was white" would sum it up for me, it didn't matter what it was they would take the opposing view. The main thing was needing lots and lots of patience.

 

[Levo-Lon]

Sounds a lot like me as a child...but i was just a horrible nasty little bstard who got regular good hidings for my defiance and attacking others..
Everything has abbreviations and special names these days..


http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...defiant-disorder/basics/symptoms/con-20024559

 

[BikeGirlKent]

Its a very grey area when it comes to naughty V Behaviour. I would get to the doctors and ask for a referral because if the childs behaviour is above and beyond the norm then there could be underlying issues! Its so hard to do what you think is right a s parent and sometimes everything you try just doesn't work! Best to get checked just in case!

 

[steve50]

http://www.kidsmentalhealth.org/children-conduct-disorder-oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd/ Have read, I've been through the system for referrals, specialists and even as far as tribunals with mine so feel free to pick my brain!

Thank you.

I don't mean to belittle your obvious distress with the child but.... isn't this just a fancy name for naughty? We had to suffer a naughty child on a recent 90 minute flight and by the end, all the passengers around him were ready to commit murder. As the web page says, consistency, routine and firmness are the keys along with positive reinforcement of the right behaviour.

No distress tbh, it was more a query as to whether anyone else had had experience with a child that had been diagnosed with ODD, as above the behaviour goes beyond "naughty" what tends to happen is downright persistent defiance.
He WILL argue black is white if that is the frame of mind he happens to be in and he likes to "plan ahead" ie; if we are traveling home in the car he will try and plan his day and if we say no or go against his plans he will become very agitated or even aggressive.
This behaviour can and does start from the minute he gets up and continue throughout the day until bedtime and if we refuse to put his tv on in his room (school nights ) he has a screaming dicky fit!!
The little guy in question is our foster boy of whom we have legal guardianship, he has come from a bad background but he was only 20 months old when he came to us so I can't think that his past will have too much of an effect regards his behaviour pattern. He is four years old now but sometimes i think four with a fourteen year attitude.

 

[twentysix by twentyfive]

his tv ..... in his room

Bedrooms are for sleep.

 

[Markymark]

Bedrooms are for sleep.

Absolutely. Poor sleep will not help any child.

 

[swee'pea99]

We always insisted that we would keep our kids' bedrooms tv-free. It was quite a while before we cottoned on to the fact that they watch telly on laptops anyway.

 

[coffeejo]

We always insisted that we would keep our kids' bedrooms tv-free. It was quite a while before we cottoned on to the fact that they watch telly on laptops anyway.

 

[steve50]

Sounds a lot like me as a child...but i was just a horrible nasty little bstard who got regular good hidings for my defiance and attacking others..
Everything has abbreviations and special names these days..



http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...defiant-disorder/basics/symptoms/con-20024559

That might have been the accepted way to "deal with" children back then, today it is totally unacceptable and i would much rather use non violent discipline to raise this youngster the same as i did with my own children. ODD is something that has only come to light in recent years so not commonly heard of.

[QUOTE 4418681, member: 45"]I have no experience of ODD, but a lot of PDA, and they're similar.

The problem with these issues is that the behaviours exhibited are normal ones, so people quite understandably think that the child is just naughty and needs to stop it.

For @steve50 , I'd put Google down on this one and see your GP. On here you're at risk of opening a can of worms that won't help you.[/QUOTE]

I am not googling for information, this is the only place it has been mentioned by myself and i am simply asking if anyone else has had experience of raising a child who has been affected by this disorder, @BikeGirlKent has and has kindly offered to share information , I fail to see how this could "open a can of worms", i am also in touch with my local gp with a view to getting the little 'un properly diagnosed / tested to determine one way or the other if he has the disorder or not

 

[BikeGirlKent]

Its a hard situation @steve50 for some to understand and yes it is a very new, but very real and life changing mental health condition. Its good to be knowledgeable on the different aspects of children mental health as a lot of conditions go hand in hand and usually a diagnosis can include 2, 3 or even more types of conditions. Its hard to explain to people and its very hard to show people as many children affected by mental health look the same as any other child, there not in a wheelchair, don't have blind dog....would people be so quick to judge if confronted with children like this? Theres a lot of information out there and for some reason these conditions are becoming more and more common. Yes some children are just naughty...I do agree, wether that be upbringing, lack of discipline or just how they are and will continue to be into adult life, but children with genuine mental health issues are not kicking back due to this, they are not wired in the conventional way and process everyday life very differently to you and I. Ive been going through a battle for 9 years with my two children, through diagnosis, bullying, medication issues, self harming, depression....the list goes on, and its a horrible thing to have to watch as a parent because you try your best but sometimes your banging your head against a brick wall!! Anyway, feel free to ask me anything, I've gained a lot of knowledge and work closely with the National Autistic Society on case studies and giving first hand insight into my experiences with specialists, the system to get my children the right help, councils, schools and anything else we come up against. Its a constant battle and I'm happy to point people in the right direction

 

[summerdays]

Its a hard situation @steve50 for some to understand and yes it is a very new, but very real and life changing mental health condition. Its good to be knowledgeable on the different aspects of children mental health as a lot of conditions go hand in hand and usually a diagnosis can include 2, 3 or even more types of conditions. Its hard to explain to people and its very hard to show people as many children affected by mental health look the same as any other child, there not in a wheelchair, don't have blind dog....would people be so quick to judge if confronted with children like this? Theres a lot of information out there and for some reason these conditions are becoming more and more common. Yes some children are just naughty...I do agree, wether that be upbringing, lack of discipline or just how they are and will continue to be into adult life, but children with genuine mental health issues are not kicking back due to this, they are not wired in the conventional way and process everyday life very differently to you and I. Ive been going through a battle for 9 years with my two children, through diagnosis, bullying, medication issues, self harming, depression....the list goes on, and its a horrible thing to have to watch as a parent because you try your best but sometimes your banging your head against a brick wall!! Anyway, feel free to ask me anything, I've gained a lot of knowledge and work closely with the National Autistic Society on case studies and giving first hand insight into my experiences with specialists, the system to get my children the right help, councils, schools and anything else we come up against. Its a constant battle and I'm happy to point people in the right direction

Friend of mine has two children in the spectrum who managed to struggle through primary school just, bumping along the bottom before just not being able to cope in secondary school, high anxiety and other bits... Kept changing over the years. Regular trips up to London each month to see the specialists (can't remember which hospital), but the eldest has now gained some qualifications (despite missing several years of education) and been able to attend college with a high level of support! They are both lovely children who mine grew up playing with them. Keep going and badgering those specialists!