Official Closest pass video

[BentMikey]

Clearly you do care though Lee, enough that you were motivated to come in for that video ride, and to be chuffed when you convinced me you were a good rider.

All I'm really saying is that when you do make a good point, it's instantly dismissed because of the way you write on here.

 

[goo_mason]

I tell it how it is, if people take offence that then I'm sorry. I have a rough idea of the people that have no respect for me on here and I could not really give a shoot about it or them.

Respect has to be earned though, Lee. As you've admitted yourself, you aren't the most tactful person and you usually post short, blunt comments (usually of the critical variety). The people I've grown to respect on these forums over the two and a bit years I've been on them are those who at least show a little humanity in their postings. By that, I don't mean that they're never critical or because I always agree with everything they say, but they're usually a little more tactful, or elucidate on their point - and when they're helpful, it's obvious that they're being helpful - rather than a suggestion that can come across to many people as more of a criticism.

I do acknowledge that you have useful and helpful points to make; it's just that sometimes you've annoyed people in the way you come across - and you know what they say about first impressions !

 

[magnatom]

Clearly you do care though Lee, enough that you were motivated to come in for that video ride, and to be chuffed when you convinced me you were a good rider.

Yes but it is blatantly obvious that he does not care much for me. Fair enough. Doesn't bother me. However, what it does do is taint all of his comments about my cycling. As I have said, I cannot recollect at point, one positive comment about me or my cycling from Lee, or one admission on any point, that I might be right (Please correct me if I am wrong!). Do you really think my cycling is that bad Lee, or do you just dislike me for some other reason?

 

[goo_mason]

I came on that video ride for me, to see how I ride not for no-one else.

Oh dear - see ? That's exactly what I mean. Blunt, and it sounds like you're trying to have a go at BM. Perhaps you are - in which case, that's not the best way to win friends and influence people....

 

[jamesgibby]

As I have said before there is a fine line between holding on your own position on the road and being a hazard when there is no need.
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Under normal conditions I would agree with you but at -3 you ride to the conditions. Given that it was -3 it makes the cab drivers driving even worse.

Lee you do make some good points, but I find reading your posts a chore due to the attitude that comes across in your writing, if that is your intention then fair enough, otherwise you may wish to reword your posts to come across as less trollish.

 

[fossyant]

17 pages..come on stop fighting.....

Mags - you should have booted the car.....now for those SPD shoes with screw in steel studs (like footie boots)....or carbon soled ones.....

Was close indeed.

 

[magnatom]

I came on that video ride for me, to see how I ride not for no-one else.

I'll admit your riding was fine in that video, if a little more risk taking than mine. However, having someone follow you once is very different from posting incidents that happen (i.e. where there is a real test of cycling skills) to you whilst cycling.

I'm not saying that you couldn't deal with incidents, but it is in these situations where your skills are really tested. Some may say I have some riding skills, some may disagree. However, I am very open to REASONED criticism, not criticism, which appears to come out of pure dislike for me personally.

 

[magnatom]

17 pages..come on stop fighting.....

Mags - you should have booted the car.....now for those SPD shoes with screw in steel studs (like footie boots)....or carbon soled ones.....

Was close indeed.

Ah, but I would not have had video footage of my foot and Mr Hippo would have had a better case for no contact being made. Keep up fossy old boy!

 

[magnatom]

I don't dislike you at all mag, after all I have never even met you. However, I will comment on your riding after all you have posted a vid and this is a cycling forum where people have different views.

My opinion may differ from the norm however this backed up by my experience on the road as a rider and driver. Remember it is only my opinion, you can take at face value and dismiss it or discuss/debate it.

Consider it dismissed

 

[Monkey Spanner]

You are entitled to post your clips I suppose but don't come over all indignant when someone decides not to kiss your arse/stroke your ego by criticising your actions.

If you don't want adverse comments then don't post.

 

[magnatom]

You are entitled to post your clips I suppose but don't come over all indignant when someone decides not to kiss your arse/stroke your ego by criticising your actions.

If you don't want adverse comments then don't post.

Mate, have a look at the comments I receive on youtube. I've been called every name under the sun, been threatened even had comments about my family and wife! I can assure you I am used to people not kissing my arse and stroking my ego (but it is huge, you should come for a stroke!).

And I am glad that you have come to the conclusion that I am entitled to post my clips (you suppose!). As a result, I shall continue!

 

[swee'pea99]

"I don't find Magna indignant"

And I don't find Lee trolly. I think he makes points that need to be made without pulling his punches, and that ruffles feathers, but so be it. Don't forget that this whole 18 page discussion effectively began when Lee was the first to step out of line after a page and a half of 'ooh poor you, what a swine' consensus and say 'well, hang on just a minute...' Thereby, in my view at least, stimulating a debate, which seems worthwhile. Can't see much point being here if all anyone does is agree how beastly non-cyclists are (while we, of course, are beyond reproach).

 

[Monkey Spanner]

Mate, have a look at the comments I receive on youtube. I've been called every name under the sun, been threatened even had comments about my family and wife! I can assure you I am used to people not kissing my arse and stroking my ego (but it is huge, you should come for a stroke!).

And I am glad that you have come to the conclusion that I am entitled to post my clips (you suppose!). As a result, I shall continue!

 

[Sh4rkyBloke]

If the road is such a wide road though, why didn't the driver overtake earlier?

If he couldn't, due to having to accelerate up to speed, then Mags clearly didn't slow him down so his positioning is irrelevant.

Anyone???

 

[fossyant]

Ah, but I would not have had video footage of my foot and Mr Hippo would have had a better case for no contact being made. Keep up fossy old boy!

This thread is moving faster than I can on my bike......I blame not keeping up on my knock on the bonce.............