Not sure who 'we' is, but if you mean the oak-hearted chaps of an English nature, they did ok against the notoriously unbeatable boks at the weekend, beaten only by two missed penalties and a freak-bobble try. Not trying to pretend it was a triumph, but hardly the basis of a 'not worth bothering' write-off. Nor let's not forget how 'in development' the current crop are.I really don't know why we bother any more and I'm glad I have France as my back-up team.

Not sure who 'we' is, but if you mean the oak-hearted chaps of an English nature, they did ok against the notoriously unbeatable boks at the weekend, beaten only by two missed penalties and a freak-bobble try. Not trying to pretend it was a triumph, but hardly the basis of a 'not worth bothering' write-off. Nor let's not forget how 'in development' the current crop are.
And what, for that matter, is that nonsense about 'having France as a backup team'? France (*spit*) are the ENEMY! Let no true-born Englishman forget it.

You have my sympathy.I'm not English!!![]()
They stuffed everyone in the 6 Nations but unfortunately have done b****r all since (unless you count beating the Baa Baas and the ACT Brumbies). Including being beaten by Samoa and Argentina.I know 3 parts of f*** all about rugby but why are Wales ranked below England? Didn't they stuff us in the 6 Nations?

Okay, thanks. So it's very up to date then.They stuffed everyone in the 6 Nations but unfortunately have done b****r all since (unless you count beating the Baa Baas and the ACT Brumbies). Including being beaten by Samoa and Argentina.
Nope. We beat France and Ireland during the 6 Nations. We also got a draw with SA during the summer series and beat two SA representative sides (but I doubt these count for World rankings).Okay, thanks. So it's very up to date then.
Who have England beaten since the 6 Nations? Anyone of the top ones?