Oh well, I guess half term is over

[HLaB]

The end of the half term break and the current chaotic state of Edinburgh Roads is a recipe for disaster and folk not looking left. I was expecting her first move as before I went passed the van I seen her pulling out of the road on the right. I tried to make eye contact but I think she was a little confused and never looked left once. I'm glad I gave her room at the next junction because when she's indicating right it actually means she's drifting left.

 

[Gromit]

She was probably not expecting any traffic to be going strait on as the truck turning right would have stopped all movement of traffic. You did squeeze past the lorry, instead of waiting behind it, which seems a little unsafe to me. I wouldn't have done that.

 

[hackbike 666]

I may have done it but would have kicked myself up the 'arris if it had been a close shave.Agree with gromit,she didn't expect it.

If there is no eye contact then it's a no-no and yes I do know that sometimes they deliberately avoid eye contact.

 

[col]

It does look like you came from nowhere, she will have seen the lorry taking the whole lane up and not expected you,you should have waited till the lorry turned and not gone down the side at a junction for just this sort of reason.

 

[HLaB]

She was probably not expecting any traffic to be going strait on as the truck turning right would have stopped all movement of traffic. You did squeeze past the lorry, instead of waiting behind it, which seems a little unsafe to me. I wouldn't have done that.

If I'd waited behind the truck, like I normally would of there I'd been waiting for 2-3minutes at least, the road the van was trying to turn right into was totally blocked with buses held back by badly timed lights at the other end. So I did move through and was expecting it, I just found her inability to ever look left annoying and her second move bizarre.

 

[lazyfatgit]

Truck probably flashed her so she just dived out (no excuse for not seeing you though).

Plenty of morons in Glasgow last week too, if it's any consolation. I stopped for a woman turning right as she wasn't giving way (green light must have meant it was ok to turn right), leaving plenty of room to go round front of me. She just drove straight at me. Thankfully reality dawned and she hit the brakes. Real heart in mouth moment. Her passanger then seemed none to pleased at my tirade.

 

[hackbike 666]

It's all about saving time and yes im impatient as well.

 

[col]

She wont have been looking again, the first time seeing the van taking the whole road up would be enough in her eyes, she will have been looking where she was turning from then.

 

[hackbike 666]

I doubt whether she would have seen you.

 

[col]

It comes down to a lesson learned really, dont do it, its safer.

Your right, the driver should have used her xray vision so she would have known you were coming, or maybe just sit and wait to see if a cyclist appears from behind the van, then she could avoid being called names.

 

[hackbike 666]

Classic case of looking but not seeing, no prob in undertaking the lorry like that as there was a fairly big gap you could go through. Muppet of a car driver should have looked again before pulling out.

You say should but she didn't.Wouldn't you think that was a possibility?

You said in the other thread you can predict what motorists are going to do.

 

[D-Rider]

I think passing the truck should be one of those situations where you do it carefully - expecting potential problems, as you were. As others said, she wouldn't have expected anything to pass the truck that (from a motorists perspective) was blocking the whole road.

Must admit that, at first look, I thought you'd got it wrong at the junction as well. On the second look I realised she was indicating to turn right and then changed her mind and moved left instead. Lots of motorists don't seem to realise they've got a blind spot on the left as well as the right.

 

[hackbike 666]

It comes down to a lesson learned really, dont do it, its safer.

We are all impatient though aren't we?

Hate faffing about and just want to get there.We've all done it,well at least I have and it can lead to something dodgey.

 

[col]

We are all impatient though aren't we?

Hate faffing about and just want to get there.We've all done it,well at least I have and it can lead to something dodgey.

It can, thats why we need to not rush at danger spots, and passing a van on the inside at a junction like this is a danger spot.

 

[Bollo]

Jesus, I'm half agreeing with col. BASED ON THE FOOTAGE ALONE I'm not sure about the lorry pass but I'd have been disgruntled by the drift left at the junction.

But as I've said before, the camera footage rarely gives the full story and this definitely falls into the "I wasn't there" category. So no judgement here. You may live. Carry on.