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I loved Cavendish's answer to his interviewer after being asked a dumb question after the finish...." Do you know anything about cycle racing...????" before walking away. Magic!
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Mad Doug Biker
Just a damaged guy.
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beanzontoast
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A moment to savour indeed. I'm glad that got shown on tv!
He is getting stick on his BBC blog
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/davidbond/2012/07/cavendish_and_co_disappoint_in.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/davidbond/2012/07/cavendish_and_co_disappoint_in.html
Chuffy
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Why was his question so daft? Cyclists regularly cite fatigue from a previous event as a reason for poor performance (not that Team GB were poor). Cadel has pulled out of the TT for that exact reason.
The comments below the article are a splendid illustration of the phrase 'botton half of the internet'. I really hope that some of them don't ever breed, because we'll be back to banging rocks together in a cave for entertainment within a generation or two.
Except that it was clearly not fatigue that 'lost' GB the race, it was a tactical error.
Even if Cav, Wiggo, Froome and Millar had all missed the tour to focus on the Olympics, I doubt they would have pulled that group back once they had been foolish enough to let them go
Cheddar George
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Post number 16 in reply to that blog is brilliant !!! ..... what is a "penelton" ?
I imagine a large group of lovely women cyclists in the style of Benny Hill
Sorry to hijack the thread, but as the subject has come up....
Can someone explain to me why the peleton couldn't/didn't catch the breakaway early on in the men's race?
Watching the women's race on TV yesterday, I can see how 3 or 4 riders working efficiently out front were able to maintain a gap on a larger group that couldn't get themselves organised. Indeed I think Boardman suggested the two remaining GB riders near the fornt of the peleton could possibly get involved in the chase effort and disrupt the rhythm of the leading chasers.
Now I understand the thing about the other teams in the chasing group of the men's race not assisting GB so that they wore themselves out, but did GB really need assistance to stop the breakaway getting so far ahead?
I should perhaps add that I watched the men's race from the back of Box Hill with no mobile internet, so we had little clue what was happening elsewhere, but the GB boys seemed to be at the front of the chasers whenever they went past. Maybe the teams had no more info than we had.
Can someone explain to me why the peleton couldn't/didn't catch the breakaway early on in the men's race?
Watching the women's race on TV yesterday, I can see how 3 or 4 riders working efficiently out front were able to maintain a gap on a larger group that couldn't get themselves organised. Indeed I think Boardman suggested the two remaining GB riders near the fornt of the peleton could possibly get involved in the chase effort and disrupt the rhythm of the leading chasers.
Now I understand the thing about the other teams in the chasing group of the men's race not assisting GB so that they wore themselves out, but did GB really need assistance to stop the breakaway getting so far ahead?
I should perhaps add that I watched the men's race from the back of Box Hill with no mobile internet, so we had little clue what was happening elsewhere, but the GB boys seemed to be at the front of the chasers whenever they went past. Maybe the teams had no more info than we had.
srw
It's a bit more complicated than that...
Just as 3 or 4 riders in the women's race were able to outpace a large group who couldn't get organised, a group of 20 who were organised in the men's race were able to outpace a group of 4 or 5.
It's not rocket science - if you're doing a quarter of the work you'll be more knackered than if you're doing a twentieth. The tactical error, if there was one, was not pre-arranging with the other leading sprinters' nations that they'd join in the GB chase effort.
Sending someone up the road to join the front group wouldn't have worked, either. It would have depleted the main chase effort and resulted in one very knackered rider tagging along at the end of the leading bunch.
It's not rocket science - if you're doing a quarter of the work you'll be more knackered than if you're doing a twentieth. The tactical error, if there was one, was not pre-arranging with the other leading sprinters' nations that they'd join in the GB chase effort.
Sending someone up the road to join the front group wouldn't have worked, either. It would have depleted the main chase effort and resulted in one very knackered rider tagging along at the end of the leading bunch.
Rob3rt
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Also the larger the group in a breakaway, means more nations/teams have a man in the breakaway and may see fit not to chase so will not contribute to bringing it back.
Chuffy
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I don't disagree, but from the reaction he got you'd have thought he'd asked why Cav didn't 'peddle faster', before mooning him.
I don't know about other sports (because I don't care) but cycling fans can't half be precious when someone who appears to know less than them gets behind a microphone/keyboard/camera. I bet the hapless moron doesn't even know what a penelton is.
Risex4
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But thats precisely it; thats exactly what the guy did ask him! (Ok, not the mooning part)
"Were you knackered from the TdF which meant you couldn't cycle any harder"? or something to that effect is probably how it would have come across to me as well if I was in Cav's shoes.
These guys are professionals, they were in a field that was made up of alot of Tour finishers/participants, and Cav even told the Beeb only a week ago he had actually had a fairly easy tour; that he hadn't chased as many stage wins as perhaps could have; he had domed to Wiggers for 3 weeks...
It was akin to asking Rooney why he didn't score more goals against Italy to keep us in Euro 2012!
youngoldbloke
The older I get, the faster I used to be ...
Yes - why didn't he? And why do those tennis players keep hitting the ball back and forward with their bats when they could just smash it over the net - it makes the game go on and on. And is golf a sport anyway?
Chuffy
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Completely fair question - the potato headed lump gets paid enough, dammit!
