Yeah well...Look what you're eating.
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growingvegetables
Guru
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Deserves a "multiple-like" option - but it might have kept me occupied for a wee while!
GrumpyGregry
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Worse off, largely as a result of the new fangled way of taxing dividends in 2016/17. Don't have a problem with paying tax, though my accountant has a problem with me saying that, so hey ho.
GrumpyGregry
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To carry on the Samaritan riff thobut "Who is my neighbour?"
wheresthetorch
Dreaming of Celeste
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Quite - the answer is in the story.
The point I wanted to make was that we are often encouraged to judge events on the impact on us, not the impact on others. It's far from the 'Big Society' concept.
GrumpyGregry
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There's no such thing as society, big or otherwise, in the world view of the sons of Thatcher that occupy 10 and 11 Downing Street.
"I think we've been through a period where too many people have been given to understand that if they have a problem, it's the government's job to cope with it: 'I have a problem, I'll get a grant.' 'I'm homeless, the government must house me.' They're casting their problem on society. And, you know, there is no such thing as society.
There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first. It's our duty to look after ourselves and then, also to look after our neighbour. People have got the entitlements too much in mind, without the obligations. There's no such thing as entitlement, unless someone has first met an obligation."
Clearly the disabled, when they whinge about benefit cuts, need to
- stop casting their problems on society
- look to themselves
- look to their families
- look to their neighbours
- meet their obligations, though to whom isn't clear and nor is the nature of the obligation obvious; to seek a miraculous cure perhaps?
I read with grim satisfaction that a number of Tory MP's who are patrons of disability charities have been told to stand down, and with delight that a number of old-school One Nation tories who still 'get' the idea of society are trying, albeit feebly, to rebel.
Wither Compassionate Conservatism anyone?
Accy cyclist
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Anyone who thinks the "disabled" are being picked on should come with me on a days work. I work in "deprived" areas of Blackburn and Accrington. I see disabled cars being driven by people who've developed a limp,but don't limp in the house. Obese people who wobble around on elbow crutches to the pie shop. People with angina who have mobility cars yet walk their dogs up and down hills. Being obese and unfit is the new disability. I asked one fatty the other week why she doesn't bin the take away for breakfast regime and get fit. She told me that if she loses weight and gets herself in shape she'll lose her benefits and she needs them to support her when she gets older. Bear in mind she's only in her 20's so she has designs on living off the state for the rest of her life. Why can't they work either? I worked at an old fashioned mental institution 30 odd years ago. The high grades as they were known did mundane sit down jobs. If you can't walk this doesn't mean that you can't work. Anyway, i'm off now to do 6 hours work in lard arse anxiety elbow crutch land!
GrumpyGregry
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Are we claiming that being clinically obese is not disabling?
Or suggesting that living with chronic anxiety doesn't disable those living with it?
Or suggesting that living with chronic anxiety doesn't disable those living with it?
He really has not a clue. One of the things buried in his budget are more actions against your local council for the lack of housing being built. Now as far as I was aware councils do not build many, if any, houses. From my front bedroom window I can see in the distance a number of fields which have had permission for housing to be built on them but nothing has happened. Cannot find anything about the budget doing anything against housebuilders for not building the houses that have already got permission, just presumably the remaining fields will get permission for housing (not green belt) but the because they do not get built the tw*t will take more action against the Council to ensure more land gets permission for housing which does not get built so the tw*t takes more action.....
Green and pleasant land, outside of a Green Belt, RIP
Green and pleasant land, outside of a Green Belt, RIP
Well I work with a number of people who are chronically obese. They seem to manage to hold down a job and get to work.
GrumpyGregry
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So they are persistently overweight. Just like me then.
I'll ask again:-
Are we claiming that being clinically obese is not disabling?
Or suggesting that living with chronic anxiety doesn't disable those living with it?
midlife
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Maybe you should substitute morbidly obese for clinically obese to get your point across?
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