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silva

Über Member
Location
Belgium
It's to be cautious with brand new / unsold - there is a reason why people didn't buy it, which is usually bad experience, in case of clothing, fibers that detoriate quickly and advertised as "environmental friendly".
Also brand label faking, I've seen such State sponsored shops setting prices as if there were real, even in cases were detoriation already clearly was visible. They price 3-4 times their normal pricing, while it's even worth nothing - the very reason why people got rid of it.
They buy 2 or 3 pieces thinking it's cheap it's the moment to stock up, to then after wearing the 1st, discover, tot then "donate" the rest of the stock to Oxfam and similar subsidized / "charity" shops

There is only 1 legit reason: sizes far away from the average.
Of course, in order to get a real bargain, one needs to have also that size, so it's not a "luck" for "all".

It's a matter of doing the effort to look, twice and even seven times, before purchasing a "stock", you can even start thinking I'm paranoia, to then STILL discover the flaw. You need to learn where and how they cut costs, in order to know when to stock or not.
 
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Rusty Nails

Rusty Nails

We remember
It's to be cautious with brand new / unsold - there is a reason why people didn't buy it, which is usually bad experience, in case of clothing, fibers that detoriate quickly and advertised as "environmental friendly".
Also brand label faking, I've seen such State sponsored shops setting prices as if there were real, even in cases were detoriation already clearly was visible. They price 3-4 times their normal pricing, while it's even worth nothing - the very reason why people got rid of it.
They buy 2 or 3 pieces thinking it's cheap it's the moment to stock up, to then after wearing the 1st, discover, tot then "donate" the rest of the stock to Oxfam and similar subsidized / "charity" shops

There is only 1 legit reason: sizes far away from the average.
Of course, in order to get a real bargain, one needs to have also that size, so it's not a "luck" for "all".

It's a matter of doing the effort to look, twice and even seven times, before purchasing a "stock", you can even start thinking I'm paranoia, to then STILL discover the flaw. You need to learn where and how they cut costs, in order to know when to stock or not.
When my jersey starts falling apart on the first ride I'll remember your wise words.
 

wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
I noticed the same in my local branch... although my passing interest ended there since the changing rooms were "closed due to theft".

It's on my usual charity shop trawl however might get struck off as the furniture's usually crap and overpriced and the music terrible.. although I did score a reasonable suit there a while ago.
 

T4tomo

Legendary Member
I noticed the same in my local branch... although my passing interest ended there since the changing rooms were "closed due to theft".

It's on my usual charity shop trawl however might get struck off as the furniture's usually crap and overpriced and the music terrible.. although I did score a reasonable suit there a while ago.

could they not just have put a curtain across where the changing room was before someone stole it? :okay:
 

silva

Über Member
Location
Belgium
When my jersey starts falling apart on the first ride I'll remember your wise words.
That's too late - all to remember then is your money.

Things falling apart on a first use do happen:
https://www.scavengerlife.com/2014/06/the-sad-decline-of-crumbling-dansko/
Shoes falling apart upon first use.
Caused by polyrethane - whoms molecular bindings are broken by... water.
Upto the point of fine dust - the "cake" like crumbling is just the beginning of the proces.
Which nobody expects since the assumption that shoes get into humid environments is as logical as to assume that a boat has a watertight bottom.

But, at some time, producers started to cut costs by replacing the proven materials with cheaper, with this as consequence for the buyer.
They even advertise their replacement as a improvement, ex eco friendly.
And there is no real (=practical) preventive solution for it.
What is the producers given advice: replace the shoes "in time".
That is, pass their cashier again. Buy 5 pairs over 5 year instead of 1 over 5 years, but the individual price tag is double or triple the 1/5.

There are a myriad example cases - you just have to take a peek in any pile rubbish in foreigners suburbs in cities in our part of the world.
Often you find even brandnew looking shoes/coats/bags/household-kitchen products/furniture, and so on, thrown away without any use.
Why: because they bought several, usually due to being tricked into thinking it was a bargain price, used one, discovered the cheat, and to avoid have to also pay to get rid of the rubbish, they dump them all somewhere.

Something must be wrong, and it is: it all has such cost cutting somewhere, all that its producents care is that the products look lasts long enough to give it the time to be sold.
And the price tag says nothing, real or lookalike leather, it has to be thrown away with the part where cost was cut.

And it even goes beyond the own choice, for ex, one can decide, my lookalike leather polyurethane coated jacket looks like crap but I don't care about the look.
But the shiny polyurethane surface, and it's unbeneath polyurethane voluminous filler, comes loose, and everywhere you go, you leave behind sticky pieces / dust.

Ex bicycles panniers, similar story - watertight plastic coating on textile, or just textile fiber reinforced, but detoriates by water and/or UV, the coating falls off as dust, which gets on your stuff. With the watertightnes ofcourse gone with it too.
The panniers just became totally useless, rather the contrary, due to the dirt, they became an obstacle.

The problem with Oxfam and other sponsored got for nothing - sell for something places, is that they do not exist primarly for the products and its customers but to create jobs as an excuse for a pay, jobs for so-called less-able (or punished), which in turn exist as an excuse to create a wide variety of them- "assisting" jobs.
As a rotation scheme, that is, they only stay some months, so-called "to learn", and then they're replaced by new, who, again, start from nothing. So if any experience (to learn to recognize crap products as such) is lost.
End result: crap continues appearing on the shelves.
Ofcourse, customers learn, so gradually over the weeks the shelves become full of crap, no place to put new.
So what do they do: a regular (4 weeks here) cleanup, that is, throw all what wasn't sold in the time, in the dirt containers. In order to recognize it, they put small color stickers, 3 colors, 3 weeks.
... instead of refusing crap upon attempt to bring it in / get legally rid of it.
As a result, those state shops here have more dirt containers on their terrain than industrials have.
Often you see people bringing in stuff, and people barely left or you see them already going to their containers with it. Go figure...

Also, for some branches, ridiculous high price settings, preventing their sale. Especially art.
Then, after the 3-4 weeks cycle, they brutally (read: physical damage to the art) empty shelves into shopping carts, to then ride to container outside, where it's further wrecked.

They're still worth a visit though - especially after a new batch newbie personell arrived, that tag prices purely based on a rude directive list.
Then you can find gold priced as wood because they couldn't read/hear Dutch well enough to notice the difference. ;)
 
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Rusty Nails

Rusty Nails

We remember
That's too late - all to remember then is your money.

Things falling apart on a first use do happen:
https://www.scavengerlife.com/2014/06/the-sad-decline-of-crumbling-dansko/
Shoes falling apart upon first use.
Caused by polyrethane - whoms molecular bindings are broken by... water.
Upto the point of fine dust - the "cake" like crumbling is just the beginning of the proces.
Which nobody expects since the assumption that shoes get into humid environments is as logical as to assume that a boat has a watertight bottom.

But, at some time, producers started to cut costs by replacing the proven materials with cheaper, with this as consequence for the buyer.
They even advertise their replacement as a improvement, ex eco friendly.
And there is no real (=practical) preventive solution for it.
What is the producers given advice: replace the shoes "in time".
That is, pass their cashier again. Buy 5 pairs over 5 year instead of 1 over 5 years, but the individual price tag is double or triple the 1/5.

There are a myriad example cases - you just have to take a peek in any pile rubbish in foreigners suburbs in cities in our part of the world.
Often you find even brandnew looking shoes/coats/bags/household-kitchen products/furniture, and so on, thrown away without any use.
Why: because they bought several, usually due to being tricked into thinking it was a bargain price, used one, discovered the cheat, and to avoid have to also pay to get rid of the rubbish, they dump them all somewhere.

Something must be wrong, and it is: it all has such cost cutting somewhere, all that its producents care is that the products look lasts long enough to give it the time to be sold.
And the price tag says nothing, real or lookalike leather, it has to be thrown away with the part where cost was cut.

And it even goes beyond the own choice, for ex, one can decide, my lookalike leather polyurethane coated jacket looks like crap but I don't care about the look.
But the shiny polyurethane surface, and it's unbeneath polyurethane voluminous filler, comes loose, and everywhere you go, you leave behind sticky pieces / dust.

Ex bicycles panniers, similar story - watertight plastic coating on textile, or just textile fiber reinforced, but detoriates by water and/or UV, the coating falls off as dust, which gets on your stuff. With the watertightnes ofcourse gone with it too.
The panniers just became totally useless, rather the contrary, due to the dirt, they became an obstacle.

The problem with Oxfam and other sponsored got for nothing - sell for something places, is that they do not exist primarly for the products and its customers but to create jobs as an excuse for a pay, jobs for so-called less-able (or punished), which in turn exist as an excuse to create a wide variety of them- "assisting" jobs.
As a rotation scheme, that is, they only stay some months, so-called "to learn", and then they're replaced by new, who, again, start from nothing. So if any experience (to learn to recognize crap products as such) is lost.
End result: crap continues appearing on the shelves.
Ofcourse, customers learn, so gradually over the weeks the shelves become full of crap, no place to put new.
So what do they do: a regular (4 weeks here) cleanup, that is, throw all what wasn't sold in the time, in the dirt containers. In order to recognize it, they put small color stickers, 3 colors, 3 weeks.
... instead of refusing crap upon attempt to bring it in / get legally rid of it.
As a result, those state shops here have more dirt containers on their terrain than industrials have.
Often you see people bringing in stuff, and people barely left or you see them already going to their containers with it. Go figure...

Also, for some branches, ridiculous high price settings, preventing their sale. Especially art.
Then, after the 3-4 weeks cycle, they brutally (read: physical damage to the art) empty shelves into shopping carts, to then ride to container outside, where it's further wrecked.

They're still worth a visit though - especially after a new batch newbie personell arrived, that tag prices purely based on a rude directive list.
Then you can find gold priced as wood because they couldn't read/hear Dutch well enough to notice the difference. ;)
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And a Merry Christmas to you.
 

silva

Über Member
Location
Belgium
Someone stole the changing rooms? 😮
They put on shops clothes to walk out without paying.
The state sponsored shops I talked about, sell shoes by putting only the left shoes in the store, and the right shoes are at the counter.
Because people walked out with shop shoes, and left behind the worn shoes they walked in with. :tongue:
Also, clothes have detection tags, and they somehow manage to remove these, you see lose ones scattered around the changing rooms - it doesn't need a genius to link A to B. ;)
 
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