Oxford Magdalen rejection letter

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Paladin - York

New Member
Location
York
He's also looking at Sheffield, which I'd prefer personally.....

..... because it's got a paternoster!
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/19/why-i-sent-oxford-university-rejection-letter

To me, withdrawing my application to an institution that is a symbol of unfairness in both our education and the legal system (which is so dominated by Oxbridge graduates) makes perfect sense, and I am reluctant to be part of a system so heavily dominated by such a narrow group of self-selecting elites. It seems tragic that people often seem to believe that individuals should compromise their beliefs in favour of improving their ambiguous "future prospects".
With that quality of argument she'll make a fine lawyer ... in a provincial conveyancing practice.
 

yello

back and brave
Location
France
I respect her beliefs and decision entirely. What baffles me is...

I am reluctant to be part of a system so heavily dominated by such a narrow group of self-selecting elites

...then why did she apply to go there? I'm not entirely sure what or who she's trying to draw attention to. On a scale of world injustices, it's hardly up there imho.
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
I'm not entirely sure what or who she's trying to draw attention to.


Herself....

I also wonder how come she didn't think about it before applying. Doesn't suggest she did much research into her chosen institutions, or indeed, had any awareness of British society as evidenced in book, film, tv etc. Either that, or she only applied so that she could pull this stunt.
 

Canrider

Guru
Herself....

I also wonder how come she didn't think about it before applying. Doesn't suggest she did much research into her chosen institutions, or indeed, had any awareness of British society as evidenced in book, film, tv etc. Either that, or she only applied so that she could pull this stunt.

"So, why did I apply in the first place? If you're achieving high grades at A-level (or equivalent) you can feel quite a lot of pressure to "prove yourself" by getting an Oxbridge offer. Coupled with the fact that I grew up on benefits in council estates throughout Bristol – not a type of heritage often associated with Oxbridge interview – I decided to give it a try.

It was only at interview that I started to question what exactly I was trying to prove. I was well aware that fantastic candidates are often turned down, and I did not believe that this was a true reflection of their academic potential. It no longer made any sense to me to subject myself to their judgment, and so I withdrew my application."
 

PK99

Legendary Member
Location
SW19
"So, why did I apply in the first place? If you're achieving high grades at A-level (or equivalent) you can feel quite a lot of pressure to "prove yourself" by getting an Oxbridge offer. Coupled with the fact that I grew up on benefits in council estates throughout Bristol – not a type of heritage often associated with Oxbridge interview – I decided to give it a try.

It was only at interview that I started to question what exactly I was trying to prove. I was well aware that fantastic candidates are often turned down, and I did not believe that this was a true reflection of their academic potential. It no longer made any sense to me to subject myself to their judgment, and so I withdrew my application."

she also wrote:

Last year I made an (admittedly weak) application to Cambridge and was inevitably rejected post-interview.
 

slowmotion

Quite dreadful
Location
lost somewhere
A spokesman for the university has said that , of the seven students offered a place to read law and joint school courses at Magdalen, only one was from an independent school. I suspect that the young lady is a merciless self-publicist who will shortly have a long and shining career as a politician. Hooray!
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
How awful if she has to live in the provinces. That'll teach her to try to be funny.
The provincial law firm might be in Llangollen, Birmingham, Brighton or central London. But it will be provincial.
 

screenman

Squire
If she is just a self -publicist she has made a good job of it, who knows what her chosen career may be. Max Clifford could do something with a person like this, as he has with plenty of others.

Me I never got to Uni, but I have employed many people who did.
 

yello

back and brave
Location
France
It was only at interview that I started to question what exactly I was trying to prove. I was well aware that fantastic candidates are often turned down, and I did not believe that this was a true reflection of their academic potential. It no longer made any sense to me to subject myself to their judgment, and so I withdrew my application.

I respect that. I really do. I think we've all had similar experiences; realised things about ourselves, what we're trying to achieve, who we're talking to, etc etc etc.... all later in the day. From job interview to buying an expensive item, you go through this 'what on earth am I trying to achieve here?' moment.

But why, having done that, make a public issue over it? Why not simply politely withdraw? Sure, the letter (in isolation) is amusing, in a 'turn the tables' kind of a way. Many of us have the urge to do something like that (particularly if we're about to be rejected ;) get the boot in first as it were!), so it strikes a chord.

I've no idea what made her write that letter in the manner that she did, less idea of how the story got to the papers, but I do see the action as maybe self-serving.... and one she may come to regret.
 
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