Thanks all
I will be looking at the brand x/ SJS cycles version as they look ok for what i need , a clip on and bungee set up will be fine as it will sure beat stopping and looking for a bungee clip that pinged off in the dark .
Price wise its always going to be the cheap end some of the top end panniers are worth more than i paid for the commuter 2nd hand ..........
When work deem to put us on full time again maybe after all the debts are cleared i will think about some thing shiny until then i am about £10 k down in the last year