Part P certification

[Chris S]

I've just had a new storage heater circuit installed in a domestic house.
Should the electrician given me a Part P certificate? He hasn't.
If he should have then will its absence cause me any problems?

 

[subaqua]

I've just had a new storage heater circuit installed in a domestic house.
Should the electrician given me a Part P certificate? He hasn't.
If he should have then will its absence cause me any problems?

Yes you should have one. a new circuit ahs been installed
Yes, you as the homeowner have the legal duty placed on you to notify the Local Authority Building Control. you can be fined if you fail to notify.

if the spark was a member of an approved scheme contact them if he refuses to issue.

if he is not a member and claiming to be then again contact the scheme provider.

If you want to PM Me I can check if the company is in an approved scheme

 

[twentysix by twentyfive]

Maybe it'll come in the post?

 

[subaqua]

Maybe it'll come in the post?

digital e-notification - costs less and there instantly. Has 5 days from completion of the work to notify LABC via Competent person scheme. currently doing 50 notifications a week !

 

[gbb]

Is it a complete new installation or replacement of an existing heater ?

 

[simo105]

Depends if its a new circuit. If it is then it will require a domestic installation certificate and is notifiable. If it was a storage heater swap then a minor works certificate will be fine and isn't classed as notifiable. I personally ask the spark for a cert.

 

[pclay]

Part P only applies to some works, eg new circuit, new consumer unit etc. Part P is to do with building regs and informing the building officer at the council.

Did the OP have a new circuit installed (eg new MCB) and wire, or just the heater replaced?

Minor works, eg plug socket replacement are not part P and only require competency for the works to be undertaken.

 

[irw]

Similarly, a spur from an exisiting circuit is not neccessarily notifiable- terminology is the key here- Chris, when you say 'a new circuit', is this a new circuit from the MCB box (fuse box), or has it been run from an exisiting 'something'? Also, is it in what is designated as a special area such as kitchen or bathroom?

 

[Chris S]

Similarly, a spur from an exisiting circuit is not neccessarily notifiable- terminology is the key here- Chris, when you say 'a new circuit', is this a new circuit from the MCB box (fuse box), or has it been run from an exisiting 'something'? Also, is it in what is designated as a special area such as kitchen or bathroom?

The new circuit is a completely new cable running from the MCB in one room to a pre-existing storage heater in another (living room).
It sounds like I need the certificate, I'll give him a few more days then email again.

 

[pclay]

The new circuit is a completely new cable running from the MCB in one room to a pre-existing storage heater in another (living room).
It sounds like I need the certificate, I'll give him a few more days then email again.

Is it a new MCB? Is it a new cable where there was not a cable previously? or is it a replacemtn of an existing cable? if the heater is pre-exisitng, there must have been a cable going to it previously.

I believe that the direct replacemtn of a cable is not part P notifiable.

 

[subaqua]

Is it a new MCB? Is it a new cable where there was not a cable previously? or is it a replacemtn of an existing cable? if the heater is pre-exisitng, there must have been a cable going to it previously.

I believe that the direct replacemtn of a cable is not part P notifiable.

Direct replacement of same size cable ,following same route is indeed non notifiable .
However change the protective device type or rating even if derating ,then it becomes notifiable.
Change the route of the cable and it is a new circuit and therefore notifiable.

It is all about the design rather than the actual install .