Peds are People & SMIDSY!

[Tynan]

'As for not caring if you hit a pedestrian, I find that quite sad. Ultimately, anticipate pedestrians actions so you don't get hurt. Not just them. Less accidents would be caused, in general, if some people didn't take the view that "well, I'm in the right, if they hit me, it is their insurance that will pay".'

If you want to comment on my posts, please read them and understand them

I made none of the points you rebuff there, of course I care about hitting peds, as for anticipating, I said those coming from blind spots where they shouldn't be

never seen a ped with insurance yet

 

[hackbike 666]

Personally I don't want another collision with a ped so I take it very seriously.

Apart from the collision on Tower Bridge my other collision was in Walthamstow.Weird considering a third of my commute is in Central London.

 

[potsy]

Personally I don't want another collision with a ped so I take it very seriously.

Apart from the collision on Tower Bridge my other collision was in Walthamstow.Weird considering a third of my commute is in Central London.

Yeah but you ride so slow the ped's wouldn't even know they've been hit surely

 

[hackbike 666]

Yeah but you ride so slow the ped's wouldn't even know they've been hit surely

 

[thomas]

Yeah but you ride so slow the ped's wouldn't even know they've been hit surely

it's when you're quicker pushing your bike you know it's time to give up

 

[ufkacbln]

I saw a pedestrian today with whom I would like show the love,but unfortunately my wife was with me!!

 

[BentMikey]

I used the old "Good thing one of us was looking" to a ped that stepped out in front of me in Hyde Park today. I came to a complete stop and waited, as well as saying that with a cheeky smile.

 

[Origamist]

they've got pavements, and all sorts of crossings that give them regular priority

I have no sympathy with any of them that get hurt wandering around in the road, I near miss then all the time stepping out from blind positions with no care whatsoever

That's a contender for worst post of the day.

 

[Origamist]

Yes, it is. Responsible peds shouldn't be hemmed in (irresponsible ones will just act like goats at some other spot anyway), and it's one less place for a cyclist to get mashed against by a bus or lorry....

A small section of railing outside a school gate is one thing, because kids run out of gates, and lark about pushing each other and so on. But great long swathes of railings generally are depressing...

The DfT study re: guard railings is here:

http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=815536&postcount=21

 

[BentMikey]

Bloody hell Tynan, I missed that. Really, it's the public highway.

 

[GrasB]

they've got pavements, and all sorts of crossings that give them regular priority

I have no sympathy with any of them that get hurt wandering around in the road, I near miss then all the time stepping out from blind positions with no care whatsoever

Great & what exactly do cyclist complain about with car drivers?

 

[jonesy]

they've got pavements, and all sorts of crossings that give them regular priority

I have no sympathy with any of them that get hurt wandering around in the road, I near miss then all the time stepping out from blind positions with no care whatsoever

As others have pointed out "they've got cycle routes" doesn't usually get a popular response here...

Sorry, but this is a prize arse of a post I'm afraid. For a start, no-one intentionally puts themselves in the way of something that could cause severe injury, be it a car or a bicycle, unless they are suicidal. These situations arise because people make mistakes. And one reason people make mistakes is because, contrary to your initial claim, pedestrian provision is pretty dreadful in many of our busy streets so people have to cross the road facing multiple lanes, complex junctions, limited crossing times, lots of vehicle movements etc from a perspective that can make it harder to judge the traffic. And plenty of pedestrians are children, people with impaired vision or mobility, and many won't therefore be drivers or cyclists and will be in an even more difficult position with respect to judging traffic movements. So you expect mistakes, you accept the fact that crossing provision isn't great and keep a fin look out for people stepping out!

It is very telling that pedestrians only seem to be a regular 'problem' for the same few people on this forum- funny that, perhaps the common element isn't the pedestrians, maybe it's the cyclists, and their attitude?

 

[thomas]

'As for not caring if you hit a pedestrian, I find that quite sad. Ultimately, anticipate pedestrians actions so you don't get hurt. Not just them. Less accidents would be caused, in general, if some people didn't take the view that "well, I'm in the right, if they hit me, it is their insurance that will pay".'

If you want to comment on my posts, please read them and understand them

I made none of the points you rebuff there, of course I care about hitting peds, as for anticipating, I said those coming from blind spots where they shouldn't be

never seen a ped with insurance yet

My original post didn't say everything was possible and that certainly pedestrians can be highly stupid and dangerous. Everyone else who read it seems to have interpreted it the same way.

As for peds without insurance....you'll find that some people will be insured via their home insurance for some type of personal liability insurance. Many peds will have this, but won't even know they have it.

 

[Sheffield_Tiger]

they've got pavements, and all sorts of crossings that give them regular priority

I have no sympathy with any of them that get hurt wandering around in the road, I near miss then all the time stepping out from blind positions with no care whatsoever

they've got cycle paths, and all sorts of crossings that give them regular priority

I have no sympathy with any of them that get hurt wobbling around in the road, I near miss then all the time pulling out and going through red lights with no care whatsoever

Only a couple of words changed and you have the stereotypical views constantly bandied around about cyclists.

 

[Sheffield_Tiger]

It is very telling that pedestrians only seem to be a regular 'problem' for the same few people on this forum- funny that, perhaps the common element isn't the pedestrians, maybe it's the cyclists, and their attitude?

To be fair it could be more to do with the route.

Pedestrians aren't really a big issue on my regular route, save for a shared underpass where it is up to me to give the pedestrians right of way anyway.

However...if I take my alternative route that takes me through the centre of town, then I often see people who turned up late to the lesson and only caught the last bit of "stop, look, listen". The worse places are the bus/taxi/cycle only routes which are naturally quieter and pass through pedestrianised routes, where pedestrians seem to still be in pavement mode.

I'm sure I would be one of those who had more issues with them if that were my regular route rather than the detour I occasionally take