PIP again.

[Drago]

Do you know that for sure?

If so, report it and let the authorities do their thing.

If not, step aside and leave it in order that your sustained interest doesnt form a course of conduct sufficient for harassment.

 

[Milzy]

Do you know that for sure?

If so, report it and let the authorities do their thing.

If not, step aside and leave it in order that your sustained interest doesnt form a course of conduct sufficient for harassment.

I know for sure, don’t want the coerced party getting in trouble though.

 

[bikingdad90]

@Milzy.
There is a difference between a shareholder and a director.

A Director might or might not be an Office Holder with or without a shareholding, there are multiple options.

A director is a person in charge of running the company. They may own shares they may not and they may or may not be an office holder, they could be an employee with significant influence.

A shareholder is a person or entity with an interest in a company. Usually shares. Depending on the amount of share held they maybe considered to have significant control (broadly minimum 50.1% ownership)

An office holder is a person who’s been appointed to a position by a company or organisation for a position that exists because it’s a legal requirement or contained within the companies constitution. They may not not have a contract or receive regular payments either.

As others have stated, PIP is a payment designed to help with independence, it isn’t a means tested benefit. It is a payment designed to help towards extra costs that might be incurred such as a having meals delivered as unable to cook etc.

The scenario of a sleeping director is potentially legal. The coercive and abusive behaviour is a concern that should be dealt with accordingly.

 

[Milzy]

@Milzy.
There is a difference between a shareholder and a director.

A Director might or might not be an Office Holder with or without a shareholding, there are multiple options.

A director is a person in charge of running the company. They may own shares they may not and they may or may not be an office holder, they could be an employee with significant influence.

A shareholder is a person or entity with an interest in a company. Usually shares. Depending on the amount of share held they maybe considered to have significant control (broadly minimum 50.1% ownership)

An office holder is a person who’s been appointed to a position by a company or organisation for a position that exists because it’s a legal requirement or contained within the companies constitution. They may not not have a contract or receive regular payments either.

As others have stated, PIP is a payment designed to help with independence, it isn’t a means tested benefit. It is a payment designed to help towards extra costs that might be incurred such as a having meals delivered as unable to cook etc.

The scenario of a sleeping director is potentially legal. The coercive and abusive behaviour is a concern that should be dealt with accordingly.

I get that but this person is going into hospital for a big operation and will be out of it for a while. He’s manipulated a stand in director to get a new work vehicle tax deductible with their address. The guy will get ‘other’ benefits not just the irrelevant PIP.
I don’t think this is just a legal loop hole so to speak, I think it’s benefit fraud. A business man is making good money from customers but still feels the need to take a good chunk of tax payers money. He’s tried to get others to be the director without offering them a carrot & funny how they’ve told him to F.O.
So now my friend has got involved & has anxiety & been bullied.

 

[bikingdad90]

I don’t follow. A business is using an employees address rather than the company address as the registered keepers address? Registered keepers address is not proof of ownership, only who is responsible for the vehicle.

If the vehicle is owned by the company, it remains a company vehicle regardless of who is logged as the registered keeper.

Are you implying that the stand in director is the owner of the vehicle and has been pressured into passing that vehicle onto the business owner without updating the details?

 

[Milzy]

I don’t follow. A business is using an employees address rather than the company address as the registered keepers address? Registered keepers address is not proof of ownership, only who is responsible for the vehicle.

If the vehicle is owned by the company, it remains a company vehicle regardless of who is logged as the registered keeper.

Are you implying that the stand in director is the owner of the vehicle and has been pressured into passing that vehicle onto the business owner without updating the details?

Business man has bought the van with payments coming from the business account but is using the stand in directors home address on the invoice. Dodgy.

 

[bikingdad90]

Not necessarily. Is the address the bill to address or the ship to address?

 

[bikingdad90]

On the underlying legal agreement for hire or purchase or lease, which parties are named?

Is it the company name or is it the directors name and which address is the legal contractual address?

 

[Milzy]

It’s his company name and the address is of the person who doesn’t want their address to be the registered office. It should be his own address but he’s up to scamming that’s why it isn’t his address. Do you get it now?

 

[bikingdad90]

You haven’t answered the question asked.

Realistically you need to establish the legal facts and legal contractual position through a discovery exercise for an investigation to be able to take place into if an offence may have occurred or not otherwise to be crude a solicitor will have a field day defending and/or it could lead to counter claims and/or the investigator may decline to take up the investigation.

 

[Milzy]

You know the answers. A person is been used by a spiv so that when they’re recovering from an operation they can keep claiming benefits & use the van as a tax detectable asset.
I’m sure it happens a lot but it’s immoral.
The said person wants to back out & get their address & name off the private limited company.

 

[Milzy]

The van is supposed to be paid in crypto currency then rented back to the company. Sounds like lies or a legal loop hole to save tax?

 

[bikingdad90]

There are platforms on the internet that allow you to purchase a vehicle in crypto currency. They act as the middleman.

The service involves a “know your customer style check” and facilitation of the conversion of payment to the individual or company selling the goods or service into local currency as not many firms hold a cryptocurrency account currently because there is volatility in the value of it.

 

[Milzy]

There are platforms on the internet that allow you to purchase a vehicle in crypto currency. They act as the middleman.

The service involves a “know your customer style check” and facilitation of the conversion of payment to the individual or company selling the goods or service into local currency as not many firms hold a cryptocurrency account currently because there is volatility in the value of it.

Yes it’s the modern ways now. It’s pretty canny renting the van to the business to save tax though.