Police pulling me over.........

[NorthernDave]

Again that's fine and dandy as (I guess) a middle aged white bloke in a moderately new car, but having had the weekly stop for a few years in my youth, and a record 6 stops in 5 days, it does get very tiresome. If I'd been a young working class black lad back in the day I could easily have picked up a bit of a "attitude" about the police - and I also suspect I'd have been hassled considerably more.

True, but even back in the day I never got stopped despite driving a motley collection of old cars and living in a not so great part of a town where car crime was rife. I must just have been lucky as one mate ended up carrying all his documents with him as he got stopped so frequently.

 

[MarkF]

Hmmm..........considering Bradford's nocturnal vehicular activities, stopping a motorcycle because it may not be displaying the L plates that is it maybe should be, is beyond ridiculous. It's at the bottom of any citizens list of vehicular crimes they'd like to see punished, especially when pavements are now regularly used by cars as roads.........

My commute takes me through one of the two worst Bradford areas for wacky vehicular activites, BD9, I also (unusually) pass 2 large police stations (Manningham & Eccleshill), maybe that plays a part? Tonight I rode North and down to Saltaire, avoidng police activity & wacky races and on to home, no problems, so I'll keep using this route & see what happens.

 

[User33236]

Last time I got stopped I was driving through Manchester at around 3am and sticking to the speed limit. This was seen as suspicious as most people drive faster on empty early morning roads.

I informed the officer that my intention has been trying to avoid being stopped as I was responding to a call-out for the local neonatal intensive care unit and wanted to get there in a timely manner. After a quick telephone call to check I wasn't shooting him he satisfied himself and sent me on my way after advising me to 'speed a bit' as it looks less conspicuous.

 

[swee'pea99]

stopping a motorcycle because it may not be displaying the L plates that is it maybe should be, is beyond ridiculous. It's at the bottom of any citizens list of vehicular crimes they'd like to see punished,

But they're not concerned about that. It's just that it's an easy way to engage possible ne'er do wells, in the hopes that one will get nervous and prove to be a bad'un.

 

[mjr]

i read those numbers to be in favour of my argument tbh.

In other words, you don't know either!

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

[QUOTE 4580755, member: 45"]I did my first CBT in 1999.[/QUOTE]
Introduced in Northern Ireland, Feb 2011

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

Northern Ireland is renowned for being "behind the times" (to put it politely)...

I think in the case of CBT,being behind the times was beneficial.

I'm not convinced that age based restrictions on power output are a great idea.

 

[MarkF]

I'm not convinced that age based restrictions on power output are a great idea.

I am, mid life crisis newbies should be restricted to C90's for 5 years, then they might have gained enough road craft to stop spreading themselves over the roads each summer. I see daft kids in the Dales, but at least they have the balls are reactions, middle aged newbies are scary.

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

I am, mid life crisis newbies should be restricted to C90's for 5 years, then they might have gained enough road craft to stop spreading themselves over the roads each summer. I see daft kids in the Dales, but at least they have the balls are reactions, middle aged newbies are scary.

And on the other end of the scale, not all new late teenage riders on supersport/superbikes were anywhere close to dangerous.

Lacking experience yes, but potentially so are midlife crisis riders

 

[Drago]

I think in the case of CBT,being behind the times was beneficial.

I'm not convinced that age based restrictions on power output are a great idea.

Here's no relation between a motorbikes performance and your likelihood of dying on it.

 

[MarkF]

Lacking experience yes, but potentially so are midlife crisis riders

Yes, but many middle aged newbies are a back of nerves on bikes way beyond their physical & mental capabilities. It's sad how motorcycling has gone, last summer I'd nip up to a meet in the Dales and be one of the youngest there...... at 53! I've seen wobbly 40+ newbie guys crash just by leaving car parks! They haven't a clue.

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

Yes, but many middle aged newbies are a back of nerves on bikes way beyond their physical & mental capabilities. It's sad how motorcycling has gone, last summer I'd nip up to a meet in the Dales and be one of the youngest there...... at 53! I've seen wobbly 40+ newbie guys crash just by leaving car parks! They haven't a clue.

I recall a number of learners out on the old group ride format who drove down to the school and hired the bike (Suzuki GN 125 or Honda CG 125) I rode my own bike down for the 3-4 lessons I did but had to hire a 125 for test so it qualified for full Cat A.

Guess who the wobbly riders were? Some of them I met over the lessons I did were still there when my 2yr restricted period was up!

It's now all 1 on 1 lessons with intercoms. I got yelled at over a brew once the lesson was over... Totally different experience

Looked last night out of interest, 24/10/05 I passed, started riding on L plates end aug 2004

 

[Globalti]

I haven't read pages 4 to 9 of this thread but surely the OP's unwarranted attention from the Police is all thanks to the current Bike Life nuisance, isn't it? Only yesterday I saw somebody riding a 125cc bike and wearing a skeleton mask - that ought to be made illegal.

 

[Drago]

What, riding a 125 or wearing a mask?

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

[QUOTE 4581229, member: 45"], I'm up for restrictions for youngsters. That's not saying that all 17 year olds are irresponsible, but in this situation for the sake of saving the idiots the sensible young bikers just need to suck it up.[/QUOTE]
That's my point against CBT though. A 17yr old taking up motorcycling today has to wait 4 years (although 4 years of experience) until they can re-test and ride anything. A 40yr old can turn up, do a full test right away and ride any size CC motorcycle unrestricted and inexperienced.

But you can also turn up at 21(or 24?) and do direct access without the previous experience too.

Shouldn't matter about age, stepped licence should apply all round (There are some lovely bikes in the A2 category!)

I wouldn't be insuring a 250 Ninja over a Thunderace or a GSXR. My current insured but not road legal machine is £80 a year, cheap NCB