GrumpyGregry
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Simple. Adequate power to comply with the limits the law place on drivers. +15% as I'm in a good mood. Else bin the speed limits as they are ignored as a matter of routine anyway.
Porsche should be selling bumper cars
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GrumpyGregry
Here for rides.
Simple. Adequate power to comply with the limits the law place on drivers. +15% as I'm in a good mood. Else bin the speed limits as they are ignored as a matter of routine anyway.
Tin Pot
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You do realise that rules have an effect even if not everyone follows them?
Do you want all laws to be constantly, physically enforced? Handcuffs for everyone, that'll stop them fighting. Muzzles for everyone, that'll stop hate speech.
Tin Pot
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So I get a free chauffeur? And I can get drunk while driving too and from the pub? That will be awesome, I can replace a pub bike with a pub car
That's the idea. Just don't "drunk dial" your ex.
sidevalve
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While we're about it let's ban carbon frame race bicycles - there is little need for them on the road on the road and only encourage their owners to ride as though they are in the TDF. [but that means cyclists might be in the wrong so we don't like that one] The argument is the same and PLEASE no 'Oh bicycles don't cause accidents' - and neither do Porches or ferraries or m/cycles if driven/ridden properly but some do. Frankly driving along an open motorway at 100 on a clear day is not all that dangerous but cycling downhill past a school full bore at 30 [easily achieved] is. It is not speed but where and when it is used [no-one dies at 300+ on a holiday jet] it is down to the rider / driver and until that simple fact is accepted the roads will be dangerous for everybody. Speed does NOT kill - stupid people do
PhilDawson8270
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Think of legitimately owning a pub Porsche. You could do 160mph hammered to the pub and back.
PhilDawson8270
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Why do you need to go a little faster? The difference is negligible. It still comes down to you WANT it, there's nothing wrong with that at all. But a lot seem to miss the point, that it also applies to things they dislike.
Tin Pot
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[QUOTE 4027399, member: 9609"]I think another sinister aspect of the "Super-Car" and TV programs like Top Gear that promote their existence is the concept that these vehicles are something to aspire to and high speed driving is something entirely acceptable. How many morons watch these super cars being driven by the Stig, then climb into their own over powered contraption (switch off the ESP caus thats what good drivers like the stig do) then drive about like utter maniacs. So many of these "Crash" videos featuring high powered cars shows them loosing control, they wouldn't have lost control if they hadn't switched the safety devices off.[/QUOTE]
Sinister super cars, carbon fibre bikes, light weight running shoes, supersonic jets.
So sinister.
Sinister super cars, carbon fibre bikes, light weight running shoes, supersonic jets.
So sinister.
Tin Pot
Guru
I don't know, maybe we'll be happier locked in our cages, tied to machines, on antibiotics.
PhilDawson8270
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Sounds just like my work tbh
GrumpyGregry
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This is a thread about a specific technology, the private motor car, and its operation. If you want to start an "all laws" thread feel free.
As it happens cars are highly regulated already. I'm just asking for a tweak to that, and a bit more enforcement around it. The levels of protest this sort of thread and the suggestions contained within it seems to generate does rather indicate that petrol addicts have a real problem with their attachment to, and fetishisation of, needlessly fast needlessly powerful wantonly over the top cars.
marknotgeorge
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@GrumpyGregry, I see from an earlier post you like to spend your hard-earned on bikes. Now this is fine and dandy, and I can see how you'd want different types of bike to suit different tasks. The fact remains, though, that you've still only got one backside. Whichever one of your stable you choose, the others are going to be gathering dust in the shed, a waste of the earth's finite resources and that.
With bikes, it's easy to have a stable of specialist machines at your disposal. With cars, not so much. They're generally more expensive, and definitely bigger. So more often than not, you have to pick a car that ticks more than one box. I know that if I didn't have to occasionally carry the girls about, I'd have something other than a Clio Grandtour (they call them Sports Tourers in the UK. It's not sporty). How about some sort of track key. Performance is electronically limited to a reasonable level everywhere except at the track?
To braking. The reason ABS works is because braking performance is best when the wheel is still rotating. If you've locked a wheel, you've overcome the grip between tyre and road - it's not that the brakes are too good, more like the tyres aren't good enough. So the grip of the tyre plays a major role in braking. So all other things being equal, what's going to stop quicker: a Porsche with foot-wide Pirellis at £500 a corner, or the £60 Chinese ditchfinders on the average Corsa?
With bikes, it's easy to have a stable of specialist machines at your disposal. With cars, not so much. They're generally more expensive, and definitely bigger. So more often than not, you have to pick a car that ticks more than one box. I know that if I didn't have to occasionally carry the girls about, I'd have something other than a Clio Grandtour (they call them Sports Tourers in the UK. It's not sporty). How about some sort of track key. Performance is electronically limited to a reasonable level everywhere except at the track?
To braking. The reason ABS works is because braking performance is best when the wheel is still rotating. If you've locked a wheel, you've overcome the grip between tyre and road - it's not that the brakes are too good, more like the tyres aren't good enough. So the grip of the tyre plays a major role in braking. So all other things being equal, what's going to stop quicker: a Porsche with foot-wide Pirellis at £500 a corner, or the £60 Chinese ditchfinders on the average Corsa?
PhilDawson8270
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The small brakes on normal cars often won't have the power to break traction of a very good tyre. Though the width of the tyre is irrelevant to the grip.
marknotgeorge
Hol den Vorschlaghammer!
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Surely the more sticky rubber you've got on the road, the more grip?
